BA vs F1250 upgrade...?
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Mr P
I would be most interested in knowing which airline you are talking about? As far as passing notes to the flight deck and asking the cabin crew for the captains details before hand, I can tell you that I have never heard of any such things happening, ever! Certainly not on BA. I would not entertain authorising an upgrade for a passenger - that is the job of my cabin staff director, NOT me. I have enough to do with other, more important things than readinga a silly note from a tight-arsed pax who wants a freeby.
Please tell me you are joking?
BEagle, I'm not going to justify BA to yoou or anyone else frankly. However, if you take a look at our long haul prices then you will struggle to find a cheaper carrier frankly, and in today's climate, thats important to a lot of people.
Enuf said.
I would be most interested in knowing which airline you are talking about? As far as passing notes to the flight deck and asking the cabin crew for the captains details before hand, I can tell you that I have never heard of any such things happening, ever! Certainly not on BA. I would not entertain authorising an upgrade for a passenger - that is the job of my cabin staff director, NOT me. I have enough to do with other, more important things than readinga a silly note from a tight-arsed pax who wants a freeby.
Please tell me you are joking?
BEagle, I'm not going to justify BA to yoou or anyone else frankly. However, if you take a look at our long haul prices then you will struggle to find a cheaper carrier frankly, and in today's climate, thats important to a lot of people.
Enuf said.
I would be most interested in knowing which airline you are talking about? As far as passing notes to the flight deck and asking the cabin crew for the captains details before hand, I can tell you that I have never heard of any such things happening, ever! Certainly not on BA. I would not entertain authorising an upgrade for a passenger - that is the job of my cabin staff director, NOT me.
I have enough to do with other, more important things than reading a silly note from a tight-arsed pax who wants a freeby.
And as for tight-arsed, do you think I should ask my travel cell next time to put me straight in First???
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Mr P
I would be most interested in knowing which airline you are talking about? As far as passing notes to the flight deck and asking the cabin crew for the captains details before hand, I can tell you that I have never heard of any such things happening, ever! Certainly not on BA. I would not entertain authorising an upgrade for a passenger - that is the job of my cabin staff director, NOT me.
I would be most interested in knowing which airline you are talking about? As far as passing notes to the flight deck and asking the cabin crew for the captains details before hand, I can tell you that I have never heard of any such things happening, ever! Certainly not on BA. I would not entertain authorising an upgrade for a passenger - that is the job of my cabin staff director, NOT me.
Perhaps you should speak to some of your colleagues more often and you would know that scenario has happened on numerous occasions (granted in my case it was when I recognised the FO as an old Herc mate after his PA). Then again, with a pompous attitude like yours, there is probably a CCG or CRM barrier to contend with!
winco
Fraid that's a "Sigh" and a "oh dear" from me, just when there was a chance things were getting better
Who's that then? FWIW authorising an upgrade is not a job for your Cabin Service Director either.....but there is one person onboard who can in certain circumstances authorise an upgrade...
that is the job of my cabin staff director,
So you represent the whole of BA then??
Perhaps you should speak to some of your colleagues more often and you would know that scenario has happened on numerous occasions (granted in my case it was when I recognised the FO as an old Herc mate after his PA). Then again, with a pompous attitude like yours, there is probably a CCG or CRM barrier to contend with!
Perhaps you should speak to some of your colleagues more often and you would know that scenario has happened on numerous occasions (granted in my case it was when I recognised the FO as an old Herc mate after his PA). Then again, with a pompous attitude like yours, there is probably a CCG or CRM barrier to contend with!
Winco - Please tell me you're not an ex-RAF driver who now flies for BA! If you are, then best I avoid your fleet. Why such a downer on todays hard-working boys and girls in the RAF? And what exactly are you busy with all that time sat in the front???
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Same as Pontious - upgraded at the gate in Dubai (EK) without asking. Rugby jersey and shorts. However it was my 3rd return to Auckland in 16 months. 8 months earlier upgraded at Melbourne for the hop across the Tasman. Both times, arrived at the gate to board and after some cheery pleasantries was handed a Business boarding card instead of the economy I gave the agent, and was wished on my way. It seems to be based on frequency of travel and space available with EK. Nice that they do it though. The BA way sounds like a bit of a black political artform to me.
H P
Not sure why you're drawing that harsh conclusion...all the ex-RAF drivers I know have no such downers on the current RAF crop (and addition know a CSD and a CSM and a CM when they see one).
Either winco is dreadfully badly informed and needs to re-read a certain Blue Book ( our equivalent, in part, of the FOB) from cover to cover, or a troll, or both....
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An ex-RAF driver
Please tell me you're not an ex-RAF driver who now flies for BA! If you are, then best I avoid your fleet. Why such a downer on todays hard-working boys and girls in the RAF? And what exactly are you busy with all that time sat in the front???
Either winco is dreadfully badly informed and needs to re-read a certain Blue Book ( our equivalent, in part, of the FOB) from cover to cover, or a troll, or both....
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Of course I don't represent the whole of BA and I certainly don't have a downer on anyone from any of the services getting upgraded, but just be a bit sensible about it.
You are asking me to believe that someone gets on board, asks the steward (ess) for the Captains details, then sits and drops him a line and then asks said steward(ess) to pass it up to me on the flight deck so I can make a decision about upgrading them??
Get real. I assure you it has never ever happened to me in my time flying long haul with BA and I have never heard of it happening to anyone else either. By all means try your best at check in and I hope you are successful, but I have serious doubts that you will be.
Of course I don't represent the whole of BA and I certainly don't have a downer on anyone from any of the services getting upgraded, but just be a bit sensible about it.
You are asking me to believe that someone gets on board, asks the steward (ess) for the Captains details, then sits and drops him a line and then asks said steward(ess) to pass it up to me on the flight deck so I can make a decision about upgrading them??
Get real. I assure you it has never ever happened to me in my time flying long haul with BA and I have never heard of it happening to anyone else either. By all means try your best at check in and I hope you are successful, but I have serious doubts that you will be.
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I've had 2 BA upgrades from WTP to Club so far this year, both because the wrong 767s were used on the service. It is very difficult to get a downgrade (yes I tried once). Other than that flying Saudi Arabian airlines close to the hadj period often produces an upgrade. On one occaision I was asked to change from my jeans to a smart pair of trousers then they would upgrade me which ties in with what many have said about being smart. Being polite is also a great help. I was stung for 80 quid excess baggage and because I didn't moan and paid up straight away I ended up in Club. The other possibility is turning up with your arm in a sling! Sometimes they take pity on you!
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There is absolutely no chance of a free upgrade with BA - end of.
It's all been done before, 1250, H4H badges it doesn't matter, you will not get a free upgrade.
It isn't much different with any of the other big airlines either I'm afraid. It's all down to ££££££££££££
It's as simple as that unfortunately
It's all been done before, 1250, H4H badges it doesn't matter, you will not get a free upgrade.
It isn't much different with any of the other big airlines either I'm afraid. It's all down to ££££££££££££
It's as simple as that unfortunately
I fly around 20 medium haul sectors per year with BA and I'm upgraded maybe 2-3 time per year.
As far as I can tell, my upgrades have been down to the fact that I'm an Exec Club member, as much as my frequency of travel.
Sorry to renter the fray on a Saturday AM, I I would agree that during the departure phase the crew
than dealing with ad hoc requests for upgrades,.
However you also state:
If you are really are current BA Flight or Cabin crew and have been paying attention to recent events (alluded to earlier by others) and subsequent communications from our esteemed management you would know that's simply not true.
H P
Unfortunately if I tell you I'd have to kill myself..........
have enough to do with other, more important things
However you also state:
I would not entertain authorising an upgrade for a passenger - that is the job of my cabin staff director, NOT me
H P
Wiggy
What fleet are you on? I'll come and fly as SLF with you!
What fleet are you on? I'll come and fly as SLF with you!
No one has mentioned the aftermath of the BA cabin crew strike. It's my understanding, taliking to both pilots and cabin crew, that upgrades are harder to come by given the fallout from that episode. I'm not taking sides but it appears much harder for BA crew to get upgraded let alone service personnel.
As others have said there is no harm in a polite word to the check in and/or gate staff. If you do know someone on the particular type then perhaps try and discreetly ask if so-and-so is operating the flight.
As others have said there is no harm in a polite word to the check in and/or gate staff. If you do know someone on the particular type then perhaps try and discreetly ask if so-and-so is operating the flight.
