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Not sure they'll get my vote as I am led to believe they have a very small population of service personnel to support - eg: if you have been injured in Afg you will benefit from their funding. Brilliant, and very well deserved, but if you die in Afg your family gets nothing, and if you are injured or killed in NI, FI etc or on exercises you also get nothing. I am happy to be corrected, but in the meantime my pennies go the the RBL, Benevolent Funds, SSAFA, and any service charity that supports the wider, family population.
Fair play to them for raising awareness of injured service personnel though, and for kicking off the current interest in supporting our troops.
Fair play to them for raising awareness of injured service personnel though, and for kicking off the current interest in supporting our troops.
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My thoughts exactly. I support the RAFBF, RAFA and St Dunstans for those very reasons. H4H get all the support they need, IMHO, at the expense of other just as well deserving service charities.
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My thoughts exactly. I support the RAFBF, RAFA and St Dunstans for those very reasons. H4H get all the support they need, IMHO, at the expense of other just as well deserving service charities.
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Interesting. I had a good read of the FAQ and it seems quite a few of your reasons are answered but maybe I am reading it the wrong way.
In regards to voting - or not in your case, non of the other service charities
are listed in the 12 that could win so voting for H4H isn't doing your other service charities out of anything anyway.
In fact, just by voting the H4H gets 2000 pounds but could provide them with 50K.
Cpl Clott
2 out of the 3 charities you mentioned are service specific and not supportive of the wider service groups. Also sounds like you are penalising the H4H for being better at marketing than the other charities which is why they have a higher profile.
Just my HO.
I just noticed the gap was closing between the top two !!!
Interesting. I had a good read of the FAQ and it seems quite a few of your reasons are answered but maybe I am reading it the wrong way.
In regards to voting - or not in your case, non of the other service charities
are listed in the 12 that could win so voting for H4H isn't doing your other service charities out of anything anyway.
In fact, just by voting the H4H gets 2000 pounds but could provide them with 50K.
Cpl Clott
2 out of the 3 charities you mentioned are service specific and not supportive of the wider service groups. Also sounds like you are penalising the H4H for being better at marketing than the other charities which is why they have a higher profile.
Just my HO.
I just noticed the gap was closing between the top two !!!
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Agree there H4H has had a lot of support and deservedly so including loads of support me and my colleagues have raised through the RAF Motorsport activities but now the Military wives song "Wherever you are" is supporting :
"SSAFA and Royal British Legion"
Well worth a little investment imho
"SSAFA and Royal British Legion"
Well worth a little investment imho
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The very fact that the other Service charities are missing from the list is case in point. The PR machine that is H4H and their link to the Uk Media has damaged other Service charities significantly. I for one do not like this one bit and for this very reason McMillan gets my vote - they were very helpful to a jet jockey mate of mine in his final years of cancer.
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The very fact that the other Service charities are missing from the list is case in point. The PR machine that is H4H and their link to the Uk Media has damaged other Service charities significantly. I for one do not like this one bit and for this very reason McMillan gets my vote - they were very helpful to a jet jockey mate of mine in his final years of cancer.
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We cross posted.
As I said before, it also sounds like you are penalising the H4H for being better at marketing than the other charities which is why they have a higher profile.
What is stopping the other charities doing the same thing with the Telegraph, Daily Mail or even better, The Times ?
Just like the 3 services use the media to push agenda's, which seems to be quite acceptable going by comments on various forums but it's not OK for H4H to use the media to raise awareness, generate support for the troops ?
Maybe it's time for a bit of marketing expertise to be injected into other organisations.
Also, assuming the first FAQ is true, why would you not go along with what a senior General suggested ? (As in raise funds to build a pool). Better to have someone like that on board than not.
Why duplicate what is already being done by other service charities ?
I am also of the understanding that far more wounded survive nowadays than in previous wars and therefore the higher number of injured need a higher level of and more rehab. Therefore by following General Dannatt's suggestion of a pool, isn't that helping in an area that is currently not catered for by the other service charities ?
I think the PRC's (Personnel Recovery Centres around the country are a great idea for helping the recovery of wounded soldiers.
H4H also donates to other Service charities, and here are 3 of the one's mentioned above by the other posters as reasons for not voting for H4H
- and I quote:-
St Dunstans
£1m grant is aimed at assisting the extension of the former North Wales Medical Centre In Llandudno which will be converted to create a state of the art rehabilitation centre, that will also provide training and respite for those injured.
RAFA
The grant was used in order to convert an ex-service families accommodation into a Contact House so that families of injured RAF personnel can be near them while at Selly Oak and providing disabled access to the house.
SSAFA
We have been delighted to donate £520K to aid the completion of the SSAFA Forces Help ‘Homes from Home’ appeal which now provides relatives' houses at Headley Court and Selly Oak.
"SSAFA Forces Help is delighted to receive the generous donation of £520,000 from Help for Heroes. The money is a significant contribution to our ‘Homes from Home’ appeal and will enable us to provide much needed support to our badly injured Servicemen and women and their families. We are extremely grateful to everyone who has worked so hard to raise money for Help for Heroes. We can assure them that, through SSAFA Forces Help’s new home near Selly Oak Hospital, it will be used to make a real difference to many lives. Families will soon be able to stay at the home and be close to their loved ones at a time when they are needed most."
Major General Andrew Cumming, Controller SSAFA Forces Help
Cpl Clott
"The PR machine that is H4H and their link to the Uk Media has damaged other Service charities significantly."
Seems to me that the charities you support (since 2 out of the 3 above you listed) do like the fact that H4H has raised money and awareness. Or are you going to suggest to your charities that they not take the money because H4H gets too much exposure already ?
I picked three of the other service charities from the list of over 20,
I am sure you can find the rest by going to the web site.
Have a good day.
We cross posted.
As I said before, it also sounds like you are penalising the H4H for being better at marketing than the other charities which is why they have a higher profile.
What is stopping the other charities doing the same thing with the Telegraph, Daily Mail or even better, The Times ?
Just like the 3 services use the media to push agenda's, which seems to be quite acceptable going by comments on various forums but it's not OK for H4H to use the media to raise awareness, generate support for the troops ?
Maybe it's time for a bit of marketing expertise to be injected into other organisations.
Also, assuming the first FAQ is true, why would you not go along with what a senior General suggested ? (As in raise funds to build a pool). Better to have someone like that on board than not.
Why duplicate what is already being done by other service charities ?
I am also of the understanding that far more wounded survive nowadays than in previous wars and therefore the higher number of injured need a higher level of and more rehab. Therefore by following General Dannatt's suggestion of a pool, isn't that helping in an area that is currently not catered for by the other service charities ?
I think the PRC's (Personnel Recovery Centres around the country are a great idea for helping the recovery of wounded soldiers.
H4H also donates to other Service charities, and here are 3 of the one's mentioned above by the other posters as reasons for not voting for H4H
- and I quote:-
St Dunstans
£1m grant is aimed at assisting the extension of the former North Wales Medical Centre In Llandudno which will be converted to create a state of the art rehabilitation centre, that will also provide training and respite for those injured.
RAFA
The grant was used in order to convert an ex-service families accommodation into a Contact House so that families of injured RAF personnel can be near them while at Selly Oak and providing disabled access to the house.
SSAFA
We have been delighted to donate £520K to aid the completion of the SSAFA Forces Help ‘Homes from Home’ appeal which now provides relatives' houses at Headley Court and Selly Oak.
"SSAFA Forces Help is delighted to receive the generous donation of £520,000 from Help for Heroes. The money is a significant contribution to our ‘Homes from Home’ appeal and will enable us to provide much needed support to our badly injured Servicemen and women and their families. We are extremely grateful to everyone who has worked so hard to raise money for Help for Heroes. We can assure them that, through SSAFA Forces Help’s new home near Selly Oak Hospital, it will be used to make a real difference to many lives. Families will soon be able to stay at the home and be close to their loved ones at a time when they are needed most."
Major General Andrew Cumming, Controller SSAFA Forces Help
Cpl Clott
"The PR machine that is H4H and their link to the Uk Media has damaged other Service charities significantly."
Seems to me that the charities you support (since 2 out of the 3 above you listed) do like the fact that H4H has raised money and awareness. Or are you going to suggest to your charities that they not take the money because H4H gets too much exposure already ?
I picked three of the other service charities from the list of over 20,
I am sure you can find the rest by going to the web site.
Have a good day.
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