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London Olympics (Multi-layered defence)
From the Torygraph this morning:
'Missiles could be fired in London to protect the Olympic Games from terrorist attack, Philip Hammond, the Defence Secretary, announced yesterday.'
'He (Dr Fox) asked Mr Hammond to confirm that “there will be a full level of multi-layered defence and deterrence for the London Games, including ground-to-air based missiles in London”.
The Defence Secretary replied: “All necessary measures to ensure the security and safety of the London Olympic Games will be taken, including, if the advice of the military is that it is required, appropriate ground-to-air defences.”
Surely this is mis-interpreted? A defensive ring of SAM around London?
'Missiles could be fired in London to protect the Olympic Games from terrorist attack, Philip Hammond, the Defence Secretary, announced yesterday.'
'He (Dr Fox) asked Mr Hammond to confirm that “there will be a full level of multi-layered defence and deterrence for the London Games, including ground-to-air based missiles in London”.
The Defence Secretary replied: “All necessary measures to ensure the security and safety of the London Olympic Games will be taken, including, if the advice of the military is that it is required, appropriate ground-to-air defences.”
Surely this is mis-interpreted? A defensive ring of SAM around London?
Last edited by Canary Boy; 15th Nov 2011 at 11:19.
Since when did the UK have any substantial GBAD? And as for multi-layered...
Last I recall after Bloodhound went out of service and the USAF Rapier squadrons disappeared was that all the UK has is Javelin and whatever pusser has on his little grey boats....and a small number of pongo Rapiers?
What planet are these people from?
Remind me again how much this fortnight orgy of a few sweaty jockstrappers running, jumping, splashing about and throwing things is costing the nation?
Last I recall after Bloodhound went out of service and the USAF Rapier squadrons disappeared was that all the UK has is Javelin and whatever pusser has on his little grey boats....and a small number of pongo Rapiers?
"A full level of multi-layered defence and deterrence for the London Games, including ground-to-air based missiles in London"
Remind me again how much this fortnight orgy of a few sweaty jockstrappers running, jumping, splashing about and throwing things is costing the nation?
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Mmmm...
Perhaps a screen provided by pusser's Grey Funnel Lines, strategically located around our shores may work. The falling debris is less likely to upset Joe Public. Now then, where did we put all those ships? Or maybe we could put Rapier on some inflatables. Words fail me.
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No, no, Beagle. We can find some rockets to use, I don't think that's the problem. You can't put a SAM ring around London because all the traffic would have to enter it to get to Heathrow.
But it's OK, what we do is this. Let all the aircraft enter London's airspace because they're behaving normally and heading for LHR. Then, when they suddenly deviate from their approach and head towards the Olympic arena we engage them with Rapier so that they lose control and the burning wreckage lands in middle of the City. So we save the stadium at the expense of three crowded blocks nearer the centre of London.
I guess the choice is the athletes or the bankers. Hmm. Maybe I won't go there!!
But it's OK, what we do is this. Let all the aircraft enter London's airspace because they're behaving normally and heading for LHR. Then, when they suddenly deviate from their approach and head towards the Olympic arena we engage them with Rapier so that they lose control and the burning wreckage lands in middle of the City. So we save the stadium at the expense of three crowded blocks nearer the centre of London.
I guess the choice is the athletes or the bankers. Hmm. Maybe I won't go there!!
Can't we get some Barrage Balloons n stuff from Millets? Painted up in Union Jack colours n stuff obviously - sponsored by Stone Island.
And a pikey with a spud gun.
And a pikey with a spud gun.
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Surely they could be positioned so all the misses and any wreckage could fall onto dead ground, Westminster would be an ideal area for this, just over the bridge and to the left......
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If we do find some rockets (Mach Two) where do we find enough milk bottles to launch them from now most of us get our milk in plastic these days .
As for the actual Limprick Games , I'll be glad when the whole thing is all over , what a total waste of money for 2 weeks of sports !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for the actual Limprick Games , I'll be glad when the whole thing is all over , what a total waste of money for 2 weeks of sports !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"As for the actual Limprick Games , I'll be glad when the whole thing is all over , what a total waste of money for 2 weeks of sports !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Don't worry, you then have to contend with the Post Olympic slump
as Sydney, NSW found out.
All the pollies and big wigs with the money put it all into planning and staging the Olympics and not a minute past when the accolades are handed out or decided, then they all p off and leave the mess to someone else to clean up.
Then someone decides that we had better start chasing some more activities / competitions / tournaments so that the venues are used but of course that takes time - normally years, by then a change of Government has occurred so they can blame the previous one.
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"Don't worry, you then have to contend with the Post Olympic slump
as Sydney, NSW found out.
All the pollies and big wigs with the money put it all into planning and staging the Olympics and not a minute past when the accolades are handed out or decided, then they all p off and leave the mess to someone else to clean up.
Then someone decides that we had better start chasing some more activities / competitions / tournaments so that the venues are used but of course that takes time - normally years, by then a change of Government has occurred so they can blame the previous one.
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Sounds to me like the new Defence Secretary is being set-up for a fall by the ex-Defence Secretary?
Why ask a question like that only a few weeks out of the job, unless you already know the real, underlying answer and you are preparing a trap?
Why ask a question like that only a few weeks out of the job, unless you already know the real, underlying answer and you are preparing a trap?
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Caz, according to the latest Olympics publicity picture HMS Belfast is no longer on her mooring. She may have been moved to a secret location for her pompoms and HA AA to be renovated and moored further down river.
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BEagle:
Last I recall after Bloodhound went out of service and the USAF Rapier squadrons disappeared was that all the UK has is Javelin and whatever pusser has on his little grey boats....and a small number of pongo Rapiers?
How very fitting!
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Why ask a question like that only a few weeks out of the job, unless you already know the real, underlying answer and you are preparing a trap?
Sir Humphrey: Bernard, what is the purpose of our defence policy?
Bernard: To defend Britain.
Sir Humphrey: No, Bernard. It is to make people believe Britain is defended.
Bernard: The Russians?
Sir Humphrey: Not the Russians, the British! The Russians know it's not.
Last I recall after Bloodhound went out of service and the USAF Rapier squadrons disappeared was that all the UK has is Javelin and whatever pusser has on his little grey boats....and a small number of pongo Rapiers?
How very fitting!
Ballast:
Why ask a question like that only a few weeks out of the job, unless you already know the real, underlying answer and you are preparing a trap?
Sir Humphrey: Bernard, what is the purpose of our defence policy?
Bernard: To defend Britain.
Sir Humphrey: No, Bernard. It is to make people believe Britain is defended.
Bernard: The Russians?
Sir Humphrey: Not the Russians, the British! The Russians know it's not.
I visited the Type 45 when parked up in the Docklands for the recent Defence Show (DSEI). Very impressed. The radar and range are impressive indeed. All the civilians who also visited will no doubt have been impressed with the 'war room' too. I think there may have been some PR involved hoping that the story of its reach would get out and thus deter any lunatic with questionable intentions during the 'limpics!
No point deploying the Rapier now the Army are in charge of GBAD (go figure?!) - they would be shooting down the Typhoons mistaking them for SU-27s!!
No point deploying the Rapier now the Army are in charge of GBAD (go figure?!) - they would be shooting down the Typhoons mistaking them for SU-27s!!
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Last I recall after Bloodhound went out of service and the USAF Rapier squadrons disappeared was that all the UK has is Javelin and whatever pusser has on his little grey boats....and a small number of pongo Rapiers?
It does however continue with the Royal Artillery who have 57 of them in two regiments. Somewhat more than the the "small number" of 24 fielded by the RAF Regt. Six per squadron, 4 squadrons.
Not that I'm suggesting Rapier alone is adequate. Combine Rapier and T45 and you start to have a layered system, no?