Nimrod – Rise and Fall
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A chip on both shoulders
As a retyred AEO miself I hav two konkur with this statement. The onli reeson I got sellekted for a komisshon was cos I cood reed, rite and spel better than the average AEOp. 
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A tall, folically challenged dry man use to say...
AEOs are OK, but pound for pound I'd rather have another dairy cream sponge.
As for accidently transmitting "on air" rather than than the intercom (or vice versa)...everyone who was allowed an RSP probably did this at least once...and the resulting stories are plentiful and usually funny as ****.
It's all banter now. Another wise old AEO used to say...it will all be the same in a 100 years. And guess what...now it is all history, how right he was.
Well not quite...my pension is a sh1tload bigger because of the 14 weeks I spent conning the staff of IOT
AEOs are OK, but pound for pound I'd rather have another dairy cream sponge.
As for accidently transmitting "on air" rather than than the intercom (or vice versa)...everyone who was allowed an RSP probably did this at least once...and the resulting stories are plentiful and usually funny as ****.
It's all banter now. Another wise old AEO used to say...it will all be the same in a 100 years. And guess what...now it is all history, how right he was.
Well not quite...my pension is a sh1tload bigger because of the 14 weeks I spent conning the staff of IOT
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It's all banter now.
The Old Fat One is spot on. It's all banter now.
As for the Nimrod, except for only two occasions, I always felt safe flying in it. One was when my P1 nearly flew us into rising ground when taking off in poor vis in Canada. Fortunately P2 saved the day when he grabbed the controls, hauled back on the yoke and we popped out the top of stratus in a near vertical climb (followed by a perfect wing-over and transition to level flight).The other, many years later, was during a landing at Gib when we crossed the Gib access road and passed the Lipton's Supermarket doing circa 100kts while the pilots were arguing about who was P1, who was P2 and who's job it was to apply the brakes.
No doubt, at some time in the future, the powers that be will buy into the P8 and the Kipper Fleet will rule the sky above the waves once more. I only wish I could have my life over again so that I could join them.
As for the Nimrod, except for only two occasions, I always felt safe flying in it. One was when my P1 nearly flew us into rising ground when taking off in poor vis in Canada. Fortunately P2 saved the day when he grabbed the controls, hauled back on the yoke and we popped out the top of stratus in a near vertical climb (followed by a perfect wing-over and transition to level flight).The other, many years later, was during a landing at Gib when we crossed the Gib access road and passed the Lipton's Supermarket doing circa 100kts while the pilots were arguing about who was P1, who was P2 and who's job it was to apply the brakes.
No doubt, at some time in the future, the powers that be will buy into the P8 and the Kipper Fleet will rule the sky above the waves once more. I only wish I could have my life over again so that I could join them.
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Was I an AEO ?
The memory my be failing in almost every respect, but am I alone in being able vividly to remember almost every single stupid thing I uttered whilst either parked in Martel or behind acoustics ?!
At the risk of stirring Charlie Luncher into action, I remember when I said,"If we find a submarine today, I'll suck the 3rd Wet's ..... ". Well, I don't need to finish the story do I? We didn't find a submarine, but I was hoodwinked into thinking we had, and I'm just glad there were no cameras to record the subsequent scene in the tac area (at least I dont THINK there were, I couldn't see very well from where I was knelt !!!)
Happy Days ???? Or does it just leave a bad taste in the mouth
At the risk of stirring Charlie Luncher into action, I remember when I said,"If we find a submarine today, I'll suck the 3rd Wet's ..... ". Well, I don't need to finish the story do I? We didn't find a submarine, but I was hoodwinked into thinking we had, and I'm just glad there were no cameras to record the subsequent scene in the tac area (at least I dont THINK there were, I couldn't see very well from where I was knelt !!!)
Happy Days ???? Or does it just leave a bad taste in the mouth
Another wise old AEO used to say...
Classic TP (Failed as ATC officer because he couldn't deal with radars - so he became an AEO!) radio call to HMS Trafalgar:
Trafalgar: A6D this is Trafalgar - copied your last and that is us flushing till time 1100.
TP: Trafalgar this is A6D. Confirm you're fishing until 1100?
and while I'm on a roll....
Tac nav has the submarine 1 mile south of Difar 27 tracking 358 degrees at 6 knots. AEO?
pause while AEO does the usual maths in his head...
AEO concurs with your position - sub tracking 368 degrees at 7 knots!
Fun times.........
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Fail to see your point Party Animal. The AEO's valuable input there was was spot on and the result of a comprehensive training package that consisted of adding a little bit or taking a little bit away from the previous assessment, regardless of outcome.
Many submarines probably successfully escaped on a course of 368 degrees due to your closed and unimaginative mind......... It's inflexible attitudes such as yours that lost the fleet.
Who was the chap who on completion of a sortie wanted the pilot to "do a quick 360 and get the heck back out of here"...? Similar point to the mind of a great AEO, surely a 360 is twice as good as a 180, whereas you navigators choose to just destroy the greatness of the aspiration with mere mathematical fact.
Shame on you and, by default, all navigators past and present. No exceptions. And with the time here at 63 minutes past 2500 o'clock, time for a glass of red.
Many submarines probably successfully escaped on a course of 368 degrees due to your closed and unimaginative mind......... It's inflexible attitudes such as yours that lost the fleet.
Who was the chap who on completion of a sortie wanted the pilot to "do a quick 360 and get the heck back out of here"...? Similar point to the mind of a great AEO, surely a 360 is twice as good as a 180, whereas you navigators choose to just destroy the greatness of the aspiration with mere mathematical fact.
Shame on you and, by default, all navigators past and present. No exceptions. And with the time here at 63 minutes past 2500 o'clock, time for a glass of red.
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Always enjoyed the times the crews never turned up for their Sim session and we techies had to keep the bin liner full of goodies in protective custody. Could never figure out what happened to them….
More often than not, the hot locks also turned up because no one cancelled them. Always made sure nothing was wasted…
As for the frozen doughnuts, 11 seconds in the microwave for best results
More often than not, the hot locks also turned up because no one cancelled them. Always made sure nothing was wasted…
As for the frozen doughnuts, 11 seconds in the microwave for best results
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Was that really you wot said that BtP?
I say prob 206, because, SF that I was, I used to read all the line books whenever visiting other Sqns.
And just to be the complete maritime nerd/geek, the correct call for minor adjustment on ASV was..."easy left left", or "easy right".
An FO turned to me the other day after an arrival brief and said "I concur" I nearly pi$$ed myself laughing, I took the 10 mins taxi to apologise and explain. The thing is I left in '98, and it all seems like yesterday.