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Old 28th Sep 2011, 21:04
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"...AVM in charge of a 100 man team..." that's 24 more engineers than I have on the Sqn, and I have a SEngO !!!
Overmanned at the top???
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Old 28th Sep 2011, 21:50
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Bribes.

BAe are having to roll with the punches at the moment as the Saudis, and I know this may be hard to believe, are becoming much more financially astute. Profit margins are becoming tighter as the Saudis now realise just how much they have been milked by BAe over the years and are now calling the shots in the current contract negotiations. Difficult times for anyone caught in the middle and I suspect that the AVM will have had his hands full!

BAe's days of taking their place in KSA for granted are running out. They are going to have to be much more competitive, value for for money and transparent in business if they want to survive over there...
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Old 28th Sep 2011, 23:03
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major personality clash at several meetings
As was told to me, the Saudis have the emotional maturity of a 2 year old. It would take something seemingly utterly insignificant to a Westerner to set 'em off. They rely very much on first impressions.
Of course, it could have also been a case of the all-knowing RAF fighter pilot going in there and jolly well telling them how its done too.
One doesn't take that approach with the Saudis if one seeks longevity in employment.
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Old 29th Sep 2011, 00:35
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Wheres's Mark Thatcher when you need him?
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Old 29th Sep 2011, 06:05
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Send in HRH The Duke of York
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Old 29th Sep 2011, 06:31
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What about Fergie?
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Old 29th Sep 2011, 06:35
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You called
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Old 29th Sep 2011, 06:39
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Nice one Fergie!
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Old 29th Sep 2011, 06:43
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''It would take something seemingly utterly insignificant to a Westerner to set 'em off.''

Disparaging comments in a phone call back home to a fellow infidel will do it. They monitor all phone calls out of the country. A mate was sent home from a QFIing job, no reason given but they did make reference to a comment made to his wife in a private call!
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Old 29th Sep 2011, 06:55
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According to a well-placed colleague (heresay, in other words) AVM Bell was determined to speed things up and 'make changes' within MODSAP. A 49 year old 2*, with his eye on one or two more, was clearly going to clash with the Inshallah culture of the Protector of the two Mosques and his close relatives.
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Old 29th Sep 2011, 06:58
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One of my flying instructors at Cranwell is now a two star.

Sigh ... I feel very old.
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Old 29th Sep 2011, 10:13
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He was a pilot I presume. What type was he on?

His predecessors have included Bastard Bill and Pete Ruddock so plenty of stars there.
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Old 29th Sep 2011, 10:17
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.... not to mention Sandy Wilson of the curtains fame!
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Old 29th Sep 2011, 10:47
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''One of my flying instructors at Cranwell is now a two star. Sigh ... I feel very old.''

He was my primary QFI as well - and he was younger than me too! I reserve the right to feel older.
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Old 29th Sep 2011, 10:52
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DW - what course (I was on 73)
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Old 29th Sep 2011, 13:27
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61. I was Sean's first ever student. He was a creamie and I was two months older!
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Old 29th Sep 2011, 15:22
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ah, Sandy Curtains, he went deep and silent after all the blunder and bullsh*t, got a job with a major defence contractor did he not?

PS, I now recall that he too was recalled at the start of the Gulf War. Political I understand and that the RAF wanted their SO in place to be the British commander. At least the RAF won the appointment in round 2.
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Old 29th Sep 2011, 15:56
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Feel old - that hit me when one of my former IOT studes retired as a gp capt!
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Old 29th Sep 2011, 16:40
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TrimStab

I would be very surprised if 'The Friends', as you call them, got involved. It's not their line. Any backhanders are likely to have been paid by the defence equipment company through local consultants hired specifically for their contacts with key individuals in the host country's procurement system.

In days gone by, any UK goverment input to such activities was likely to be handled by International Military Sales (IMS), a quasi government department with offices in Soho Square.

...don't know what happens now.
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Old 30th Sep 2011, 10:03
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It was once rumoured that an aim of KSA was to be able to make their own aeroplanes and maintain them entirely within their own nation by 2015 - and they are said to be on-target for acheiving that.
It is currently 1431 in Hijri calendar.

Not as long as they have holes in their arses.


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