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Old 28th Jun 2011, 19:53
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Submarine School. Channel 5

Anyone else out there embarrassed beyond belief watching Submarine School on Channel 5?? Not the fact watching it on a lovely summers' night, and it's fairly geeky, rather the build up to the.....

"and now to the most formidable weapon, the Maritime Patrol Aircraft based at RAF Kinloss, the Canadian P-3 Orion".

How on earth have we got here?!


Not wanting snide comments about MR2 or MRA4, because let's face it, if you post I'll probably never meet you, and it's oh so easy to post provocative nonsense on here....I'm more keen on like minded individuals with a positive response, if indeed there is any!!!

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Right with you there old boy.

Felt a little bit physically sick explaining to my missus..."thats what I used to do".

Not any more.
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Absolutely!

I cringed with embarrassment when I saw the Aurora knowing that we have thrown away our capability.


Pathetic!
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I'm another sad geek! I can't believe he stayed at PD watching the Canucks; he'd never have got away with that if I was on patrol!

And I can't believe that Betty texted me to let me know that she was on PPRuNe before it had even finished.

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I'm more concerned about the ineptitude that some of these guys seem to be displaying. It's almost as though they haven't actually spent much of their careers as officers in the submarine service but that this course is the first chance they've had to handle a submarine and deal with the tactics involved.

There's one numpty who displays the leadership qualities of a 3 year old and the teamworking skills of a mole. Heaven help is that's the best the RN has to offer - and this from someone with a great regard for the boys and girls in dark blue.

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Have to agree with OD. Mind you, I've probably read Hunt for Red October too many times.
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Heaven help is that's the best the RN has to offer
I guess then you did really well on this course? Did you pass first time?
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At least they all passed the course.








It's a repeat
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Old 28th Jun 2011, 21:34
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Thread drift, or what....(can't say that I don't disagree, mind!)
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All except the guy who "jumped ship" halfway through.


(D'you see what I did there?)
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No, not really airpolice. You see the Navy call their submarines "Boats" so it doesn't really work in the context you meant.
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I think it's nice to see the contestants on the apprentice aren't that s**t after all..
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Well tm,

That which is funny isn't always true, that which is true isn't always funny.

I prefer funny.
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Tmobile,

No, Sir, I didn't pass the course - first time or any other time. Probably because I'm claustraphobic and have no desire to spend a large part of my life underwater.

HOWEVER, I do know a tad about leadership and teamwork and hence able to make reasonable judgements on the evidence offered.

Another point about the Perisher. Why was Lieutenant being put through the course (and ultimately leaving), when most - if not all - submarine captains are Commanders? It seemed to me that the guy should have been allowed to continue to gain experience before being subjected to a course which, if unsuccessful, finishes his career as a submariner.

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PS Last episode tonight. I shall then watch the DVD of Kelsey Kramer in "Down Periscope" - Lauren Holly as a very realistic female submariner (its the high heeled shoes and the tight jacket that gives the game away)
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Airpolice, I appreciate your efforts. I thought the guy who pullled the plug last week was doing okay.
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Originally Posted by tmobile
Why was Lieutenant being put through the course (and ultimately leaving), when most - if not all - submarine captains are Commanders? It seemed to me that the guy should have been allowed to continue to gain experience before being subjected to a course which, if unsuccessful, finishes his career as a submariner.
It's surprising that officers who fail the perisher course are removed from underwater operations, because at the moment the Royal Navy is supposedly short of submariners. Banning an experienced officer from continuing to serve in boats because he's demonstrated that he's not yet ready to command one seems a bit wasteful to me.

A note about the Lieutenants. You'll notice that they both seem to change their epaulettes to those of Lieutenent to Lieutenant-Commander and back again! I suspect that they were waiting for promotion when the series started, and were promoted during the course. I realise that most submarines are commanded by a Commander, but their XO's are Lieutenant-Commanders. Success on the perisher course leads to an XO's position, not a command itself.
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A few observations. One Lt was actually a Lt Cdr - how the hell did that mistake get through vetting - it was vetted given so many screens were blurred out.

Did anyone see the video through the periscope at the Canadian Aurora? I couldn't work out why it had US markings on it in one piece of film.

Finally, anyone who wet shaves and then washes his arm pits with the same water is welcome to be on that boat by himself!
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Our War

Rather than the sub stuff I was watching 3 of 3 of 'Our War'....anyone else catch it....really made the hair stand up on the back of my neck listening to the incoming rounds! Hats off to those guys doing the biz day in and day out.
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"Heaven help is that's the best the RN has to offer"

Funnily enough I went to an ordinary Coventry comprehensive school with a chap who went on to be a Perisher instructor, quite a senior one in the end... Initially, I found it surprising to see that he had done so well for himself, as he was quite a er... formidable character, shall we say, as a schoolboy...

... until he reverted to type by being party to an SSN being driven into the sea bed off Skye (by a Perisher stude who he and a fellow instructor were busy tearing a fresh one) doing about five million quids worth of damage and having the anchor dropped on his career as a result.

Was almost as if it was an incident waiting to happen for the best part of 20 years. Last seen sailing a desk in the Main Building, dont know where he is now....

"How On Earth have we got here?"

Betty.... do you really need to ask???
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Old 29th Jun 2011, 09:15
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. . . anyone who wet shaves and then washes his arm pits with the same water is welcome to be on that boat by himself!
Is it acceptable the other way around?

I think I saw a bon mot on pprune to start using the flannel at the top and work down
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