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Demise of the Millibar.

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Old 2nd Jun 2011, 20:54
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and before we know it, some fool will suggest we go from fuel in gallons to some other funny measurements.
What, like Lbs perchance?
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And don't forget....

.....cubits. All these old measures were based on the human body which most folk can relate to almost instinctively.

And from another thread on JB there is the "Slasher", which is 7 7/8"

(Or so he would have us believe )
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This was a sensible and serious thread until you brought fact, logic, reason and Napoleon into the equation. Just because the Scots like the French. Pah, humbug.
I'm English, natch....

This hector chap is indeed not welcomed, scientific notation rules ok - I doubt somehow that anyone is going to be cleared to fly at 3 times ten to the power of 2 metres anytime soon though.

Metres - the French were so pleased with their new measurement that they sent a chappy off to the New World with a standard metre so that their republican allies could share the benefits of the new logic. His ship was battered by storms, blown into quite the wrong bit of the Americas (ie the bit we were in charge of)...everything that could go wrong short of being sold double glazing wrecked his mission.... which is why the spams to this day have measurements that make the British look sane, as they gave up waiting for him to arrive.

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I've been told that there is a push from within the ESA to get all aircraft to have thermometers / temperature gauges marked in Kelvins. Apparently its to enable technicians to easily transfer from aircraft to space engineering, where everything is much colder.
The ultimate aim is to have schools and universities teach in Kelvins, not Celsius
You just need to add 273.15 to your Celsius reading to get the Kelvin value
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There must be a few Naval Gentleman about who wish they had stuck with fathoms as they would have had twice as much water underneath them.
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Ah, but when they draw 30 feet on a chart marked in metres they might get a Nottingham moment.
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Jeez you guys, you had me really worried. Thought a millibar was a different size version of a mini-bar. I would be really concerned if we were talking about the demise of the mini-bar. Now that would have a quite significant impact on all PPruners.
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If I remember correctly, the SI discourages the use of hecto
... except when it suits them, like the hectare ........
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I'm still trying to educate colonists down here not so say that a car has 'thirty thousand kilometres' on the clock, but to say 'thirty megametres'!

I also carry in my glove box, an old tyre pressure gauge, that is calibrated in Lbs/Sq Inch.
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Bring back the universal measurement of the Firkin....


(Too Firkin heavy; too firkin far etc).
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I still haven't got over the loss of the Aztec bar.
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Don't forget the ginger beer with AF and Whitworth. Nothing like standardisation.

Still, the Canadians have it hacked - ice on a lake one metre deep with only a few feet of water below that.
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Oh please, do not go there. I have to teach SI units and conversions at the University of Prince Edward Island. Patience of a saint, I tell you...
If I have to teach hectopascals, some of them will explode.

My favourite localism is "I'll be a second..", which apparently is the opposite of the (unused) "I won't be a second"
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Next time you get one of those johnny foreigner types on the radio, give him the dew point in Kelvin until he stops sodding about.

I remember hearing one transmission where a cousin was cleared down to 6,000 feet, QFE 998

"Can I have that in inches please"

"Certainly sir, descend to 72,000 inches"
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Oh please, do not go there. I have to teach SI units and conversions at the University of Prince Edward Island. Patience of a saint, I tell you...
If I have to teach hectopascals, some of them will explode.

My favourite localism is "I'll be a second..", which apparently is the opposite of the (unused) "I won't be a second"
Errr ...... didn't the Gimli Glider run out of splosh because of confusion between an aeroplane system designed, built and calibrated in pounds and a fuel distribution system calibrated in litres, because the guvmint wanted it that way?

I'll get me coat.

ROger.
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Old 3rd Jun 2011, 18:19
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Much more recently I wrote a small spreadsheet for a hot and dusty place where you entered whatever fuel the aircraft required - pints, pounds, litres or whatever and it converted it to whatever the bowser delivered, US G, kilos or whatever.

Given the short tours over the last 10 years . . .
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Geee whiz...

....there's a UNIVERSITY in PEI??

At the Summerside Legion one Friday night a loooooong time ago I had difficulty converting UK dancing to Maritimes social mores "We don't do that here!!"

Crashed and burned again, so got VV tiddlwed instead. (Yes I DID mean that).

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Errr ...... didn't the Gimli Glider run out of splosh because of confusion between an aeroplane system designed, built and calibrated in pounds and a fuel distribution system calibrated in litres
Not quite. The fuel indicating system (which would have given them a value in Litres) was u/s, so the groundcrew and flight crew were required to do a dipstick check, which was in Litres. The manual entry FMS calculations required a value in Kg, so they converted Litres to Kg. Unfortunately, having only recently started using the metric system, both the groundcrew and flight crew used the conversion factor for Litres to Lbs (1.77) instead of Liters to Kg (0.803). The net result was they departed with 22,300 lbs of fuel thinking they had 22,300 Kg (they must have been impressed with the climb out performance) and it all went quiet about halfway down the leg.

Captain got top marks for airmanship and a demerit for maths, but as always, there was a whole trail of missed opportunities to avoid the accident.
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Blacksheep - surprised anyone remembers Milly's in Changi. Always seemed to induce severe attacks of amnesia.
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The 'Gimli glider' was not the greatest advert for Canadian maths skills
Most Canucks count in 12's as that's how the beer comes.
By sheer chance, I shall be in Gimli in a few weeks - have to raise a 0.477 kg to the remarkable flying skills shown. The Captain was an experienced glider pilot and the co- had flow out of Gimli (by then closed) in the RCAF. Always reminds me of the 'Life of Brian' line " you lucky, lucky b@st@rds!"

..and UPEI is one of the top 10 primarily undergraduate universities in Canada - we don't do much (and some of that IS, admittedly, just counting lobsters) but we do it well!
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