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Old 30th May 2011, 16:39
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Gauge identity?




Hi guys,
Bit of a strange one for a first post i know, but i am hoping to help a friend. He is now the proud owner of the above gauge, unfortunately he hasnt the faintest as to what AC type it has hailed from?
Said gizmo was purchased for a fiver at a stand at Bruntingthorpe, but the guy behind said stall didnt know its origin either!
Various ideas floating back and forth include:
Early ILS gauge (AC type unknown).
Trim ? gauge (AC still unknown).
Has anybody seen this one before? Your input greatly valued.

Gary
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Why do you have what appears to be a 7.62 round in the picture?
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I learned the MLS through training in 1973. This looks older.

Don't really recognise that, but it certainly looks like it's displaying beam guidance deviation.

Probably a form of zero reader.
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Somewhere on the gauge there will be a set of serial numbers embossed/scribed/painted.You could try the `Flypast` website``Historical` forum for instrument anoraks,if you don`t get any answers here,Are those two lights,or push-buttons as well ?

ed; the O and I could be lights for `outer` and `inner` markers..
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Thanks for the answers so far people, as for the 7.62 round, fear not matey...'tis a key-ring!
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DD is on the money ....
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Thanks very much to all, much appreciated fellas.
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Red face key ring?

isnt that a magazine your key ring is sitting on?
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I was about to post that this item was clearly from my beloved Wiggins Aerodyne, but since this guy is clearly tooled up, I have decided to abstain

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Magazine? Ha, no, that's his TV remote. As for the blood spatters on the wall...bad mosquito infestation!
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I am stunned by some of the comments/questions on this thread regarding the apparently casual appearance of "munitions" and associated tin boxes.

It is perfectly legal in UK to own empty tin boxes and key-ring fobs and many avid military enthusiasts buy them from Airshows and Jumble sales whenever they can. (I don't see the attraction myself) but I have a (Licenced) friend who owns less than a dozen working ww1 vintage rifles that he uses regulary, though not often.
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I was about to post that this item was clearly from my beloved Wiggins Aerodyne,
I thought that the only instrument on the Aerodyne was a crystal set which enabled the pilot to listen in to 2 LO as he map-read from A to B
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"I am stunned by some of the comments/questions on this thread regarding the apparently casual appearance of "munitions" and associated tin boxes.

It is perfectly legal in UK to own empty tin boxes and key-ring fobs and many avid military enthusiasts buy them from Airshows and Jumble sales whenever they can. (I don't see the attraction myself) but I have a (Licenced) friend who owns less than a dozen working ww1 vintage rifles that he uses regulary, though not often."


That makes two of us. I thought Australia was bad and was a bit stunned myself by some of the comments by the PC Police.
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Old 30th May 2011, 21:53
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Back to the topic, it's a BABS (Blind Approach Beam System) reader. It's a forerunner to ILS and it was developed from the German Lorenz system, The early gadets just used to give a tone in the headset, dots for fly left, dashes to fly right. This is a device which gives a graphic display of the information.
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a bit stunned myself by some of the comments by the PC Police
Not PC Police - mine was a joke, hence the smiley face ... lighten up, Francis!
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Arm out the window

I got your post, which I thought was quite well put and funny (having swatted a swarm of mosquitos with a shotgun).

I was referring to GGR and Really Annoyed's comments.
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Fair enough
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but I have a (Licenced) friend who owns less than a dozen working ww1 vintage rifles that he uses regulary, though not often.
Used to be a bod on the squadron, an ex civi armourer... a proper one, many moons ago had a panzerschrek in the Armoury at a secret Hampshire heli base........ t'was on a shotgun licence! Plods at the time enquired make, which he provided, barrel length which was under 6 foot? and if it was smooth bored, which it was, so they issued a shotgun licence for it I believe...... He got it out one day so we could all see it.

In case you do not know what it looks like... didn't have any ammo though.

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Stand Easy chaps, my earlier post was meant to be a joke

I don't have an issue with firearms, as long as they are not pointed in my direction. As a former member of several Station Shooting Teams & a competition shot/game shot, I have no issues with weaponry in private hands, when legally held.

The only folks that worry me are those with a morbid fascination with firearms, and they are out there (I'm not insinuating, at all, that our new PPrune friend is). Some years ago, I had a guy on my RAF servicing team who fitted this bill in a slightly scary way; he had a collection of firearms (legally held, pre-Dunblane) that the average infantry platoon would envy. It came to my attention that he was in the habit of going 'down town' wearing an empty shoulder holster; not illegal, but bizarre. He then claimed, in conversation with colleagues, that RAFP had authorised him to carry one of his own handguns whilst on Crowd Control duties at the forthcoming Open Day. This reached my ears, & I achieved a 50k' altitude faster than my friend Lightning Mate. There then followed a 'my office, your .44 Magnum' interview.

In the end, due to domestic problems that this guy was facing, I had to advise my youthful & cherubic Flt Cdr that unless he wished to wake up to a shocking headline in his Daily Sport, he must only allow these weapons to be drawn from the Stn Armoury (thankfully, their repository) on his express & individual authority.

I don't know what the hell this has to do with the Observation Basket Attitude Indicator from a Wiggins Aerodyne!

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Back in the pre-stupidity days of the 1970s, one of the 4 who lived in the place we rented near Scampton had a legal licence to import and own one handgun at a time - he also had several target shooting rifles and used to make his own ammunition.

All entirely legal back then - and about the only thing he ever did diligently was to stick to the requirements of his gun licences. He kept a 6" barrel Colt .357 Python in the station armoury - I once had the opportunity to fire this enormous cannon on the station firing range and it was very impressive indeed. But how on earth anyone ever fires it double action....

"Why does he have that huge six-shooter?", asked the range supervisor. "Pest control", I replied, "You should see the size of the rats in our orchard!"...

Anyway, I'm intrigued to learn that's what a BABS indicator looked like - although the L / R indicator is a bit like the 'homing' indicator we had on the Jet Provost / Hunter Rebecca display.
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