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Old 25th May 2011, 22:00
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Goodbye Para Pay?

If this has any truth then goodbye The Parachute Regiment - I would imagine that 2 Para would become 2 Foot?

Paratroopers hit by pay cut on return from Afghanistan war - Telegraph
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Questionable Journalism?

The MoD is struggling with an estimated £1 billion shortfall in its budget for the current financial year. Cutting the so-called Para Pay bonus will save more than £4 million a year. But it will be a significant blow to up to 4,000 soldiers just back from a gruelling tour of Helmand, many of whom take home little more than £1,000 a month.
My calculator says that £4M divided by 4,000 equals 1,000. So Para Pay is £1000/month... Damn, times have changed... I used to get £4/day... According to this they now get £33.33 per day....

BTW. For £4/day they got some damnably fine soldiers back then...
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Old 25th May 2011, 22:43
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My calculator makes £4m per year divided by 4,000 = £1000 per year or £83.3 per month or £2.73 per day.

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Old 25th May 2011, 23:15
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CD,

That's why he only got £4 a day!!
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When I qualified as a pilot in the Army we, (SNCOs), got the same for flying as our colleagues got for jumping out! three pounds and three shillings A WEEK!
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Flying Pay next? Nothing is inviolate it seems
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if i was the PM, would ask our boys to pay to fight, pay to jump,...pay to die.

eh! nobody force them.!

they got a job, they got experience, and later they can join another army force, so why we should pay our soldiers..??? think about it?

maybe we should hire chinese soldiers and give them a cup of rice everyday.

better why nor send all these teenagers who do camping in the middle or Madride.

we need to kick some ass in this society!
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According to the BBC...

the special supplement of nearly £6 a day in recognition of the extra risks and skills involved in parachuting.
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Among those affected by the move could be quartermasters and cooks in 16 Air Assault Brigade who are traditionally fully trained to parachute.

A Ministry of Defence spokeswoman said it was right that at a time of public spending restrictions "people who would never be asked to jump out of the back of a plane" might lose the payment.
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That's why he only got £4 a day!!
Indeed...

Note to self: Check your maths when beer is involved in posting...
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Also, there will doubtless be a saving in parachutes too . . .

These can be used to arrest the rate at which morale is falling.



Wonder where it all ends . . .

I thought it was bad when I PVR'd in 1993, but I didn't know the half of it.
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Remind me again how much of the mod main building budget was spent on executive office furniture and artwork?
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Or even why the MOD needs to stay in London at all.........................
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Old 26th May 2011, 16:25
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Or even why the MOD needs to stay in London at all.........................
errrr...because it's the capital city
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Old 26th May 2011, 17:02
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All Spec pay will be under review. Air Despatch pay will be next. Either that or you will only receive it on the days you fly! Pay per Fly. Sounds like some scam Ryan Air would run!!
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When was the last Combat Jump for 2 Para?
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When was the last Op jump for the Raf Regt?
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One could respond to the above that it was Op Silkman in Sierra Leone in 2001.

Of course, some wag will claim it wasn't an operational jump because there were reporters on the DZ. I'll respond to that with the following two points and let's see where the conversation goes from there:-

  1. The parachute descent took place during Op Silkman and therefore was carried out as a part of an operation making it an operational jump.
  2. If one thinks back the US intervention into Somalia the SEALs and Marines were met by hordes of cameras and lights - did that make it any less dangerous? It was certainly an operation.
As a PS I'll add that were it not for 18kt winds II Sqn would have jumped onto Port Stanley Airfield in 1982. I know, I got "on the bus, off the bus" at least three times for that and was once lined up behind a C-130 at Lyneham for a non-stop trip before it was scrubbed. 2 PARA went on a civvy boat with a load of stewards who were "light on their loafers" IIRC....
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Old 26th May 2011, 22:45
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AA, I really doubt that any jump by (non SF) Airborne Forces would have happened in 82. We were also warned off for it, but thankfully common sense prevailed..
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Latest...

Telegraph article HERE.
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Old 26th May 2011, 23:54
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We need the Para's if the UK has expeditionary aspirations but why must they be paid this all the time? on top of this why do Submariners get submarine pay when skimmers only get sea pay when (gasp!) AT SEA!

... gone to defence stations...
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