Brit joining the Pakistan Air Force
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I agree with Phil. You have already been told that entry to the PAF is difficult and we know the RAF is very difficult too. Now one reason for applying to the RAF now is in the hope of joining a UAS at university.
Just persuade your parents that it is a 'free' interview opportunity.
Just persuade your parents that it is a 'free' interview opportunity.
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I'm sure you guys will understand the perspective my parents are coming from.
They think about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and so on and the involvement our military has had there.
I doubt I can lose my Citizenship, I was born here. This is my Birth country.
What do you guys think?
They think about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and so on and the involvement our military has had there.
I doubt I can lose my Citizenship, I was born here. This is my Birth country.
What do you guys think?
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if you think PAF isnt involved in a war, your wrong. the war is all around us, everytime you step off base, your a target because the strike units are bombing the tribal belt on the afghan border.
2nd, you have to give up your citizenship completely, otherwise you arnt eligible at all. remember just giving up the passport wont do. you have to give up being British completely!
the other thing you need to consider is that when you do apply, be prepared to be interrogated, harassed and observed by the the intelligence guys. you will be treated like a spy. even after getting into the service. expect you lines to be tapped and a guy behind you. im not being paranoid. thats how things work here.
trust me, its just not worth the trouble
2nd, you have to give up your citizenship completely, otherwise you arnt eligible at all. remember just giving up the passport wont do. you have to give up being British completely!
the other thing you need to consider is that when you do apply, be prepared to be interrogated, harassed and observed by the the intelligence guys. you will be treated like a spy. even after getting into the service. expect you lines to be tapped and a guy behind you. im not being paranoid. thats how things work here.
trust me, its just not worth the trouble
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As someone of similar age and aspiration my best piece of advice to you is to go to University, join the University Air Squadron get some flying experience and get a degree at the same time.
You sound like you're quite switched on (Maths+Computing degree) so why not apply for a bursary from the RAF, they will help towards your degree. You'll earn a degree from a British university which is second to none internationally and will have a very strong reputation.
Once you get to University your parent's influence on you reduces and you will be free to do what you want to do and if that's flying and serving your country then they should be proud.
Don't bother with the PAF, in a few years the RAF should be in a better position to recruit and with a degree and University Air Squadron experience behind you, you should be more competitive at OASC.
You sound like you're quite switched on (Maths+Computing degree) so why not apply for a bursary from the RAF, they will help towards your degree. You'll earn a degree from a British university which is second to none internationally and will have a very strong reputation.
Once you get to University your parent's influence on you reduces and you will be free to do what you want to do and if that's flying and serving your country then they should be proud.
Don't bother with the PAF, in a few years the RAF should be in a better position to recruit and with a degree and University Air Squadron experience behind you, you should be more competitive at OASC.
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Hey there,
I am. My parents have been quite strict from day one!
Do you know the requirements for a University Air Squadron?
I am. My parents have been quite strict from day one!
Do you know the requirements for a University Air Squadron?
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Seen as though I'm from Birmingham, I've found these pages:
University of Birmingham Air Squadron - How to Join
Quite interesting.
University of Birmingham Air Squadron - How to Join
Quite interesting.
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During the fresher's fairs the respective UAS should have a stand set up, if you are thinking of going to university in Birmingham or the surrounding area, then yes UBAS would be your first point of call.
Check University Air Squadrons - Find a squadron for a full list of UASs and University Air Squadrons - Eligibility Criteria for eligibility requirements.
Hope this helps
Check University Air Squadrons - Find a squadron for a full list of UASs and University Air Squadrons - Eligibility Criteria for eligibility requirements.
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WP,
I am a pilot in PAF. i can guide you about the selection process and training in PAF.
do you have dual british / pakistani nationality? only pakistani nationals are allowed to join pakistani armed forces. and dual nationality holders must surrender their citizenship of countries other than pakistan before they join.
life in PAF as a pilot is good and full of opportunities to fly many different types of aircraft. however, the salary is pathetic. moreover, once you get in, its very hard to get out of the air force.
i'm there to answer any questions that you may have about being a pilot in PAF.
I am a pilot in PAF. i can guide you about the selection process and training in PAF.
do you have dual british / pakistani nationality? only pakistani nationals are allowed to join pakistani armed forces. and dual nationality holders must surrender their citizenship of countries other than pakistan before they join.
life in PAF as a pilot is good and full of opportunities to fly many different types of aircraft. however, the salary is pathetic. moreover, once you get in, its very hard to get out of the air force.
i'm there to answer any questions that you may have about being a pilot in PAF.
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ali1552,
pathetic salary? for one your getting 40% of your basic as flying allowance.
plus the 50% increase in the basic last year...the pay of a Flt Lt. right is more than what an air commodore was making 3 years ago.
hazard pay for an armament officer clearing the bombing range of duds is 1 pound per month...yeah 123 pakistani rupees per month!!
and you guys are still bitching pay..
and its about time the Air HQ decided to stop handing out releases. it took us a few years to get the air staff to realize what was going on but thank god that they did. it was neither fair to the PAF nor fair to civilian pilots whose slot you guys have been taking for years.
don't get me wrong, i have the utmost respect for air force pilots.
Robert Cooper
maybe because unlike the RAF, we will still have fighters 10 years down the line
pathetic salary? for one your getting 40% of your basic as flying allowance.
plus the 50% increase in the basic last year...the pay of a Flt Lt. right is more than what an air commodore was making 3 years ago.
hazard pay for an armament officer clearing the bombing range of duds is 1 pound per month...yeah 123 pakistani rupees per month!!
and you guys are still bitching pay..
and its about time the Air HQ decided to stop handing out releases. it took us a few years to get the air staff to realize what was going on but thank god that they did. it was neither fair to the PAF nor fair to civilian pilots whose slot you guys have been taking for years.
don't get me wrong, i have the utmost respect for air force pilots.
Robert Cooper
maybe because unlike the RAF, we will still have fighters 10 years down the line
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Am I the only one thinking 'WTF' about this thread ?
So WP your parents don't like the idea of you becoming involved in a war ? Don't join the armed forces then, full stop.
Do they think travelling to Pakistan and flying their fast jets is a safe option then ?
reading between the lines would I be right in thinking you have some religious reasons for not wanting to get involved in Afghan. 'This is my birth country'. doesn't sound like you have much allegiance to the queen anyway ?
So WP your parents don't like the idea of you becoming involved in a war ? Don't join the armed forces then, full stop.
Do they think travelling to Pakistan and flying their fast jets is a safe option then ?
reading between the lines would I be right in thinking you have some religious reasons for not wanting to get involved in Afghan. 'This is my birth country'. doesn't sound like you have much allegiance to the queen anyway ?