Stand down chaps, Libya announce ceasefire.
The Mig was being flown by anti Gadaffi forces, they have admitted the loss this morning.
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"Excuse" for Western intervention? What the hell are you talking about? There is no need for an "excuse" for christ sake! The fact that Gadaffi tanks entered Benghazi this morning and he continues artillery bombardments of numerous civilian areas is reason enough for air strikes. If they don't happen, then the West has just lost any shred of decency it had...
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"Excuse" for Western intervention? What the hell are you talking about? There is no need for an "excuse" for christ sake! The fact that Gadaffi tanks entered Benghazi this morning and he continues artillery bombardments of numerous civilian areas is reason enough for air strikes. If they don't happen, then the West has just lost any shred of decency it had...
Its going to be effin difficult deciding who's who if he does get in to Benghazi, given that we're not allowed to have any boots on the ground to id targets. Of course, we could send in a couple of 'diplomatic teams' to help the rebels. Those FCO boys are pretty handy when it comes to a fight.
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There are so many conflicting stories that it is impossible to know what is going on from afar. It is possible that the Colonel's ceasefire announcement combined with the further talks in Paris to-day has given Government Forces the time needed to close to or within Benghazi. If that proves the case, it will be a real problem to identify who is on one side or the other in an urban environment.
It would also mean he does not now need to use his Air Force. How do we then use Air Power alone to get him to withdraw especially if he then has his supporters around or on the roofs of potential targets? And all on live TV!
It would also mean he does not now need to use his Air Force. How do we then use Air Power alone to get him to withdraw especially if he then has his supporters around or on the roofs of potential targets? And all on live TV!
Aircraft shot down today................from the footage, Id say it was a Mirage F1
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The Mig was being flown by anti Gadaffi forces, they have admitted the loss this morning.
Libya had 109 MiG 23 in service. Most are grounded. 2011 civil war in February and March: at least 4 captured by rebels in air base in Benghazi February and March 2011.[citation needed] Four captured by rebels at Tobruk air base.[24] Four captured by rebels in hangar at Misratah.[25] One captured by rebels at Al-Abrak.[26]
So how will the boys enforcing the No Fly Zone tell the difference between a MiG23 operated by the Rebels from that operated by Gadaffi's Forces?
So how will the boys enforcing the No Fly Zone tell the difference between a MiG23 operated by the Rebels from that operated by Gadaffi's Forces?
A bloke behind a screen takes note of which airfield they take-off from and gives them a suitable track id...
A different bloke, called 'Bob', walks up to the Rebels and gives them a sheet of paper with squawks and times for that day...
Another bloke looks at a different screen / radio to monitor what the different tracks are up to...
All the other chaps/chapesses train regularly how to differentiate between friendly tracks and not so friendly tracks...
Even the average USAF F-16 driver knows that there is a high probability that he/she may end up fighting an adversary one day in a near identical F-16 to their own, such is the way of the modern world.
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Well said Fareastdriver, but he still isn't angry enough to use a different prophets name instead is he 
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Even the average USAF F-16 driver knows that there is a high probability that he/she may end up fighting an adversary one day in a near identical F-16 to their own, such is the way of the modern world.
"That's true", the instructor told me. "I taught him everything he knows. But he has no idea about everything I know."
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Perhaps...
A bloke behind a screen takes note of which airfield they take-off from and gives them a suitable track id...
A different bloke, called 'Bob', walks up to the Rebels and gives them a sheet of paper with squawks and times for that day...
"Another bloke looks at a different screen / radio to monitor what the different tracks are up to...
All the other chaps/chapesses train regularly how to differentiate between friendly tracks and not so friendly tracks...
Even the average USAF F-16 driver knows that there is a high probability that he/she may end up fighting an adversary one day in a near identical F-16to their own, such is the way of the modern world. "
The Yanks will just shoot down anything up there including civil airliners like Iran Air 655.
They couldn't distinguish between an A300 and an F-14
A bloke behind a screen takes note of which airfield they take-off from and gives them a suitable track id...
A different bloke, called 'Bob', walks up to the Rebels and gives them a sheet of paper with squawks and times for that day...
"Another bloke looks at a different screen / radio to monitor what the different tracks are up to...
All the other chaps/chapesses train regularly how to differentiate between friendly tracks and not so friendly tracks...
Even the average USAF F-16 driver knows that there is a high probability that he/she may end up fighting an adversary one day in a near identical F-16to their own, such is the way of the modern world. "
The Yanks will just shoot down anything up there including civil airliners like Iran Air 655.
They couldn't distinguish between an A300 and an F-14
Fareastdriver,
No, I won't.
No, I won't.
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A Dutch correspondent saw the dead pilot being brought into a hospital, covered by his blood-stained parachute. According to him not a pretty sight...
Some rebels don't rule out this was a case of "blue on blue/friendly fire"...
Some rebels don't rule out this was a case of "blue on blue/friendly fire"...
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I think we all knew that the Gaddafi wouldn't back down and he hasnt. I think he has whats coming to him, but without ground troops I don't think it will be that simple. The only way to topple him is if the whole country rise up to get rid of him.
