Tornado Down Part 2
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Thats is fair enough Edward , I do apoligise. I unfortunately know many of the lads out there and the gossip does travel. We shall await till the BOI puts its findings out in a years time.
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yesterday's aircraft had landed and travelled about 6000 feet along the runway before something caused it to depart the centreline.
From the pics which were posted yesterday and have now been removed, the aircraft seemed to be at rest in front of 12 Sqn's HAS complex, they being the only ones which have the doors opening facing the runway. Therefore the aircraft would have landed on R05 and not R23 as previously suggested.
If the aircraft had travelled 6000 feet along the runway, which If memory serves is 9100', that would place it in front of the old 8sqn apron, and not in front of the 12Sqn complex.
yesterday's aircraft had landed and travelled about 6000 feet along the runway before something caused it to depart the centreline.
From the pics which were posted yesterday and have now been removed, the aircraft seemed to be at rest in front of 12 Sqn's HAS complex, they being the only ones which have the doors opening facing the runway. Therefore the aircraft would have landed on R05 and not R23 as previously suggested.
If the aircraft had travelled 6000 feet along the runway, which If memory serves is 9100', that would place it in front of the old 8sqn apron, and not in front of the 12Sqn complex.
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Beg to differ, the photo I saw seemed to line up with the old 208 now 617 Southern HAS site. The HAS in the background that is lit up was almost parallel to the runway (24 if memory serves) with 25 behind it. to the left.
Landing would have been over the Lossie/Elgin road rather than over the Moray firth.
(Can't believe I just posted this, HAS spotting at my age. oh the shame..
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Beg to differ, the photo I saw seemed to line up with the old 208 now 617 Southern HAS site. The HAS in the background that is lit up was almost parallel to the runway (24 if memory serves) with 25 behind it. to the left.
Landing would have been over the Lossie/Elgin road rather than over the Moray firth.
(Can't believe I just posted this, HAS spotting at my age. oh the shame..
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On the Northern HAS Site HAS's 06, 08 & 09 faces the runway. All the HAS have doors facing another HAS with the exception of HAS 09 which has a large concrete wall between the HAS and the runway, so the photos must be of the Southern (ex 208 Girly Sqn) HAS Site.
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@ Linedog:
Admittedly I was confused with the photograph initially. It actually makes the HAS seem closer than it actually is. The HAS is on the Southern (617 Sqn) side of Runway 23/05.
The incident aircraft made an approach and sucessful touch down on Runway 23 (i.e. heading in a roughly westerly direction). Due to the as yet unknown cause of the incident, it is now sitting to the north of Runway 23 pointing in a NW / NNW direction - just before the intersection of the 2 runways. I have said about 6000 ft along Runway 23 - obviously I haven't been out there with a measuring tape, but it's close enough for Government work
Admittedly I was confused with the photograph initially. It actually makes the HAS seem closer than it actually is. The HAS is on the Southern (617 Sqn) side of Runway 23/05.
The incident aircraft made an approach and sucessful touch down on Runway 23 (i.e. heading in a roughly westerly direction). Due to the as yet unknown cause of the incident, it is now sitting to the north of Runway 23 pointing in a NW / NNW direction - just before the intersection of the 2 runways. I have said about 6000 ft along Runway 23 - obviously I haven't been out there with a measuring tape, but it's close enough for Government work
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Apologies - age playing tricks with tiny brain! I thought the initial conversation between J*** C and the Staish went on the lines of JC "Hello mate, how are you doing?" Staish "Don't call me mate, I'm the Stn Cdr!". But you're definitely right, it was his first job!
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Yeah, but we never let the truth get in the way of a good story do we! 
Can't believe it was so long ago, tempus fugit and all that 
Anyhoo, the Tonka is sitting around about here --> Flash Earth - Zoom into satellite and aerial imagery of the Earth in Flash for those that are interested. Looked like it was going to be moved today but nowt happened.
Can't believe it was so long ago, tempus fugit and all that Anyhoo, the Tonka is sitting around about here --> Flash Earth - Zoom into satellite and aerial imagery of the Earth in Flash for those that are interested. Looked like it was going to be moved today but nowt happened.
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Apologies - pics resized.
These pics are mine as per the copyright.
Just to clarify a few points - the aircraft landed on runway 23 and as far as I can see from the viewpoint outside the 10 end, deviated to the right off the runway after the cross-section of runways 28/10. It came to rest (undercarriage intact) just before the fence that surrounds the PAR mushroom with both the ejector seats visible some 50-100 yards in front of the aircraft. Both survival packs and parachutes are stacked about 50 yards to the rear of the aircraft. Included below is a daytime pic of the scene clearly showing the parachutes on the left and one of the seats to the right.
Al
These pics are mine as per the copyright.
Just to clarify a few points - the aircraft landed on runway 23 and as far as I can see from the viewpoint outside the 10 end, deviated to the right off the runway after the cross-section of runways 28/10. It came to rest (undercarriage intact) just before the fence that surrounds the PAR mushroom with both the ejector seats visible some 50-100 yards in front of the aircraft. Both survival packs and parachutes are stacked about 50 yards to the rear of the aircraft. Included below is a daytime pic of the scene clearly showing the parachutes on the left and one of the seats to the right.
Al
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fisbang, yes, all Tornados are dirty in that area. Surprising in a way that they never painted it black in the first place.
The good Burghers of Inverness must have thought the end of the world was upon them when they were awakened by the mighty roar of the 4 Conways of the VC10 taxi that was taking the two Tonka crew South late in the evening!
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The HAS in the background that is lit up was almost parallel to the runway (24 if memory serves) with 25 behind it.
happy days !!!
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There are literally dozens of possible scenarios which could cause the aircraft to end up in that position, so the "I think it was....." seems a little daft to me as very very few people have the facts at hand and none of it will be validate until the BoI have completed their investigation.
Mind you, I'll never forget the GR1 that ended up just off the runway at Dhahran after the NWS went to full left deflection when the pilot selected 'HIGH'.
Mind you, I'll never forget the GR1 that ended up just off the runway at Dhahran after the NWS went to full left deflection when the pilot selected 'HIGH'.
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Well, on Sunday afternoon/evening I watched a ginormous crane (civvy contractor with one of those jobs with millions of wheels) lift said cab out of the mud, plonk in gently on the runway and a wee yellow tug towed it off in to the nearest HAS site (15 Sqn's?). It look remarkably un-bent, although it might need a bit more than seating and glazing before it takes to the air again. Still, the fact that it was towed in the normal manner must point to its relative lack of damage.
Now I would like to see a crane lifting a Tonka out of the mud! I don't suppose the official photographer from earlier in this thread was there to record the moment for us Ppruners was he/she?!