KC-30 Boom comes off.

[BEagle]

Only if the operators were stupid enough to risk a 'tanker dependent' deployment trail..... Which would be contrary to ATP-56B, but - hey, the top wheels in a certain air force think that's acceptable.....

[Shell Management]

The boom failed at its root, ie at the end of the mast, as it should when overloaded.

[greenhornet]

So, if you cut the tip off a plant in your garden,, that is the root??

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by BEagle

Only if the operators were stupid enough to risk a 'tanker dependent' deployment trail..... Which would be contrary to ATP-56B, but - hey, the top wheels in a certain air force think that's acceptable.....

Been a number of changes to ATP-56 recently as well to bring that operator more in line with NATO.

There have been lots of incidents with receivers taking more than just fuel from a tanker. It came to a point where the USAF would no longer allow the USN to train off the KC-135 BDA as more and more of them took the BDA with them. Now Omega provides tankers for training the USN with a fuselage unit.

Originally Posted by greenhornet

So, if you cut the tip off a plant in your garden,, that is the root??

Just need to go back to the sailing terminology, not biology. The mast on boat is connected to the vessel, and the boom is connected to the mast.

[Trojan1981]

So an aircraft in development suffered a non-critical structural failure during testing. This is hardly the end of the world. That is why the development phase is so lengthy, for any new system, Boeing or Airbus.
The problem will be fixed, the aircraft will enter service (late, but name one that isn't), no big deal.

Enough of the "I'm in the know" "No, I'm in the know" bollocks, please. If any photos surface they would be interesting to have a look at.

[ozbiggles]

I wouldn't use a DOD release for any accuracy.
The last one I read about an aircraft was for a Caribou that had a 'heavy landing' in PNG.
The remains of that aircraft came home underneath various helicopters and in small aircraft loads.

[D-IFF_ident]

I wouldn't mind seeing a list of those changes Zeke, parts 1 and 2 on the official website (RAF - Air to Air Refuelling - ATP-56(B)) still show 14 Dec 2008 as the most recent update.

[BEagle]

D-IFF Ident, Change 3 is due mid-2011....

One hopes they've $hit-canned the 'observation' and 'reform' bolleaux?

Some National Annexes were updated last year; the document still includes the Part 5, Annex ZC for the KC-45A as being 'TBD'...and, of course, there's still no entry in the Italian annex for the KC-767I

[greenhornet]

Zeke, on a boat the mast is fixed, the boom is not necessarily, as with some booms used in construction. The 'boom' in this case is mounted to the fuselage and pivots about a joint by movement of the flight control fins. I hope whatever you are smoking allows you to focus on the pictures when they come out

[D-IFF_ident]

Thanks BEagle. I wonder who is drafting Change 3?

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by BEagle

D-IFF Ident, Change 3 is due mid-2011....

They say that every year !!

Originally Posted by BEagle

Some National Annexes were updated last year;

Correct

Originally Posted by greenhornet

on a boat the mast is fixed

How does a boat get under a fixed bridge ... they fold the mast.

Originally Posted by greenhornet

pictures when they come out

The pictures are already about, if you have not seen them already, you probably will never will. That goes for the tanker and receiver.

I cannot recall ever seeing photos of any tanker incident on public website legitimately. That includes last years KC-767J fire.

[greenhornet]

Rather than pursue a meaningful conversation with Zeke, I'll settle that Zeke says the boom did not depart the KC-30. I think he may be wrong, despite some sailing boats being able to fold their mast . Which is as relevant as the color of monkey ****?

I'll revisit when the truth gets past the airbus censors, which will be not long after they lose KC-X.

[D-IFF_ident]

OK - I'll buy that Zeke might be "a genuine middle class good-guy" who clearly has a stack of AAR experience, and contacts in interesting places. Otherwise, I'll await a formal report.