Changes to CEA
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I meant 'damp squib' compared with the changes announced earlier this year - INVOLSEP &c.
It would be interesting to know (cue PQ) how much more it has cost to hire SSFA around London, to accommodate those personnel required now to move with their families to ensure continuity for those children in receipt of CEA, compared with CEA savings. Bugg#er all, I suspect.
It would be interesting to know (cue PQ) how much more it has cost to hire SSFA around London, to accommodate those personnel required now to move with their families to ensure continuity for those children in receipt of CEA, compared with CEA savings. Bugg#er all, I suspect.
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It would be interesting to know (cue PQ) how much more it has cost to hire SSFA around London, to accommodate those personnel required now to move with their families to ensure continuity for those children in receipt of CEA, compared with CEA savings. Bugg#er all, I suspect
Null point I fear, different budgets!
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I was chatting to some colleagues the other day - there is an interesting paradox now emerging: Overseas posting are no longer that keenly sought after - reduced allowance package etc. But Mongstream officers are now not so keen to return to UK because if they are put in a longer post in Blighty (as proposed) their CEA is jeopordised, thus I beleive that some are asking to extend in the various career-dead NATO appointments!
Oooh, that's a saving!
Oooh, that's a saving!
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MoD bows to Forces pressure not to cut boarding school allowance
With a huge dose of bitterness from the Telegraph:
However, the new problem is that:
So standby for another sha£ting!
With a huge dose of bitterness from the Telegraph:
Mr Cameron was told by his former schoolmate who is now Director of Special Forces that cutting CEA would have a “devastating” effect on morale and prevent his sons attending Eton.
The MoD is now faced with having to find cuts from elsewhere after it promised in the defence review to cut the Forces total £800 million allowance package by £250 million.
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The MoD is now faced with having to find cuts from elsewhere after it promised in the defence review to cut the Forces total £800 million allowance package by £250 million.
Then there's the cost of Project Future Lyneham......
'Different budgets' I know but I'm sick 'n' tired of hearing that expression, it's actually all one budget, the Defence Budget and until we look after it as a whole we'll never sort the mess out.
Still, at least my kids have finished school.....
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Thousands have been doing just that in Wilts and Oxon since time started, hence the much needed CEA changes, your bad luck is the fault of year upon year of Pikey thieving.
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Leon,
Humour me, I've moved considerable distances when the time has come and so this situation has not come up for me. I am in receipt of cea.
I do not doubt that what you say is absolute fact and that the situation for you is what it is.
BUT. To clarify, you are saying there is no flex in the system so that even though you are moving further from your place of work and into an FQ which costs them to administrate and look after..... They still insisted that you move? Letting alone disturbance allowance payments etc? This is ridiculous.
I thought I fully understand mobility requirements. To use 2 bases (10 miles apart) as an example, does this mean that if I lived in Lossiemouth town in my own house whilst based at RAF Kinloss and then got posted to RAF Lossiemouth where there were no FQs, I could be allocated a house at RAF Kinloss and have to move and commute? Because that is bloody stupid.
Sorry if I am missing something obvious, I just don't understand how your situation was dealt with so inflexibly for the benefit of neither party.
Humour me, I've moved considerable distances when the time has come and so this situation has not come up for me. I am in receipt of cea.
I do not doubt that what you say is absolute fact and that the situation for you is what it is.
BUT. To clarify, you are saying there is no flex in the system so that even though you are moving further from your place of work and into an FQ which costs them to administrate and look after..... They still insisted that you move? Letting alone disturbance allowance payments etc? This is ridiculous.
I thought I fully understand mobility requirements. To use 2 bases (10 miles apart) as an example, does this mean that if I lived in Lossiemouth town in my own house whilst based at RAF Kinloss and then got posted to RAF Lossiemouth where there were no FQs, I could be allocated a house at RAF Kinloss and have to move and commute? Because that is bloody stupid.
Sorry if I am missing something obvious, I just don't understand how your situation was dealt with so inflexibly for the benefit of neither party.
Yes, you are on the money. I have lived in my house for 4 years and it is 1 hr 10 mins door to door to Main Building. I was posted to MOD and was told that I would not get another eligibility certificate unless I moved to Quarters. They offered me Biggin and Bushey and both are farther away than where I live in travelling time.
I spoke to the LCpl in JSAW and she said there was nothing I could do - quarters or nothing.
Hence I became a Mr today!
LJ
I spoke to the LCpl in JSAW and she said there was nothing I could do - quarters or nothing.
Hence I became a Mr today!
LJ
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I've never heard anything so stupidly inflexible in my life.
I feel like coming out in sympathy and also pvr-ing. Unfortunately I'm one short of the number of wings required by a civilian employer, so I'll be holding on by my finger nails whatever they throw at me. Good luck.
I feel like coming out in sympathy and also pvr-ing. Unfortunately I'm one short of the number of wings required by a civilian employer, so I'll be holding on by my finger nails whatever they throw at me. Good luck.
The thing that REALLY p!ssed me off is that my Mrs works in London and we would quite happily have taken a quarter within 45mins of Whitehall. I would even have taken a flat. I couldn't find anyone in the HIC at Aldershot who would help (it used to be High Wycombe until recently) - you can imagine how busy Aldershot HIC is with pongos on short 3 year "in and out" engagements.
So my gratuity now pays for my kid's school fees and my mortgage is paid by the pension. Anything I earn on top is now living expenses and pocket money
This CEA change of re-qualifying criteria and Project SIRIUS (the new officers' career streams) were the 2 biggest push factors for me. After 22 years the Service is barely recognisable to what I had joined and I see it getting worse before it gets better (if it ever does). If the senior leadership really are that bright to make it so bad for us middle ranked officers to "up and leave" then they have succeeded (I hear I am one of 18-odd that have PVRd this year from a cast of just under 400) - sadly for those that remain I suspect the seniors are not that bright (hence Tranche 2 is delayed whilst they let their brains catch up).
LJ
So my gratuity now pays for my kid's school fees and my mortgage is paid by the pension. Anything I earn on top is now living expenses and pocket money
This CEA change of re-qualifying criteria and Project SIRIUS (the new officers' career streams) were the 2 biggest push factors for me. After 22 years the Service is barely recognisable to what I had joined and I see it getting worse before it gets better (if it ever does). If the senior leadership really are that bright to make it so bad for us middle ranked officers to "up and leave" then they have succeeded (I hear I am one of 18-odd that have PVRd this year from a cast of just under 400) - sadly for those that remain I suspect the seniors are not that bright (hence Tranche 2 is delayed whilst they let their brains catch up).
LJ
