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Old 4th Dec 2010, 23:03
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In her natural environment, the F3 looks effortless, graceful and sleek. I got sent some shots the other day, of the Tonka at low level and I had forgotten (if I had ever realised) what a beautiful thing she is.

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"On January 19, 1991, a Saudi F-15 intercepted two Iraqi Mirage F1s attempting to attack coalition naval vessels in the Gulf. Aided by vectors from a USAF AWACS, the pilot shot down both planes with Sidewinder missiles, resulting in two aerial victories for the coalition and a public relations victory for the Saudi air force." (http://www.conservapedia.com/F-15_Eagle)

Since this is a rumour forum, I heard at the time that an F3 had a firing solution on these two F1s but was ordered to defer to the Saudi pilot. Can anyone here confirm, or deny this?

ps Al R I totally concur, as the images on the previous page demonstrate.
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In her natural environment, the F3 looks effortless, graceful and sleek. I got sent some shots the other day, of the Tonka at low level and I had forgotten (if I had ever realised) what a beautiful thing she is.

Very true Al R. Ironically with the bigger engines and more fuel the F3 was always a more capable airframe than the GR1/GR4. It was just less suited to its role. This is one of my all time favourites taken by Geoff Lee of BAES in 1992/3

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Old 5th Dec 2010, 11:11
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the F3 was always a more capable airframe than the GR1/GR4
Sadly, not saying a lot.
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Old 5th Dec 2010, 13:20
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Heading down to Thirlmere.
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Originally Posted by LateArmLive
Sadly, not saying a lot.
With the more powerful engines, longer fuselage and the extra fuel tank behind the nav, the F3 would have made a fabulous bomber platform!
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With the more powerful engines, longer fuselage and the extra fuel tank behind the nav, the F3 would have made a fabulous bomber platform!
Wasn't this the proposed configuration of Tornado International or Tornado 2000 in the late 80s? Did anything come of it?

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Sadly, not saying a lot.
And what does that say about the Harrier as the GR4 is officially more capable than the Harrier?
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Old 6th Dec 2010, 07:51
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always looking up,

Deny.


Not that the crews didn't try for any intercept possible. By the end of the war something like a total of 18 drop tanks had been banged off. The armourers were going to get a T-shirt:

"43 Sqn - busted more tanks than the A10s"
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Old 6th Dec 2010, 08:39
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I've a photo somewhere of the first tankless jets taxiing back in. It's not worth posting I'm afraid, very distant. I seem to recall that they had been sent after some Iraqis that seemed to be setting up an intercept on some A10s?
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Old 6th Dec 2010, 20:10
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Here's an old one. From the paint job around the canopy and running down the spine I'd say it was ZE887 but perhaps someone here can correct/confirm that.

'Cool' ('scuse pun) pic all the same. (Worthy of a caption maybe)

(image source)
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Old 7th Dec 2010, 09:11
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It's ZE734/JU.
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maltwoser: It's ZE734/JU.
You're quite right - should've spotted the big yellow streak on the fin.
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Old 7th Dec 2010, 20:11
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Just to throw in one more question, during my time on 25 it never crossed my mind but why is ZK, ZK and not a FK? From what I can remember it was the air display jet for a few years around 1998 ish?
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Old 7th Dec 2010, 20:39
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To commemorate that ZK was the 25(F) Sqn code from 1939 to 1951

Here's a 25(F) Sqn Beaufighter from that period...



and a Blenheim...



Simples!
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Old 7th Dec 2010, 21:03
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Only other type was Mosquito

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Old 10th Dec 2010, 13:54
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A few more, once I went "digital"...

















I hope that they are of interest...

SB
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Old 10th Dec 2010, 14:37
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Was the 5th image (jet in burners) in that set from a Sidewinder head*?

Good air-to-air shots! I like the 'ozone hole' in the first one over that well-known sun-drenched island paradise in the South Atlantic!



*Yes - I did say 'Head'!
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Old 10th Dec 2010, 17:35
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Some classic shots there SB
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Nice to see the SARBoys being tactical and getting the upper hand in the FE...
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