Chartered Engineer in the Military
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All - I think that I sum it up by just saying that, while in the forces, its nice to be Chartered, but not essential. When I leave the Service, I can see lots of advantages (primarily - getting a job in the first place!)
There are MAA moves afoot (MAA/RI/DTECH/01/10) for level J/K to be C/IEng which will come in from Q3/4 2011 - although it says nothing about payment, and it does not help me pay my £233 in January!!!
I've also found out from the Engineering Council that you must be a member of an institution to be Chartered. And, if you let your membership lapse, then provided you reapply within 3 years you will be re-instated. After 3 years you have to go through the whole process again.
Anyway, thanks for the comments. Long live the revolution.
There are MAA moves afoot (MAA/RI/DTECH/01/10) for level J/K to be C/IEng which will come in from Q3/4 2011 - although it says nothing about payment, and it does not help me pay my £233 in January!!!
I've also found out from the Engineering Council that you must be a member of an institution to be Chartered. And, if you let your membership lapse, then provided you reapply within 3 years you will be re-instated. After 3 years you have to go through the whole process again.
Anyway, thanks for the comments. Long live the revolution.
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EngO's where is their experience
What use will any of these certificates be to any Engineering officer in the civil world of airworthiness!! Almost nothing if your staying in the aviation operating field. Eng officers posted to FSTA will have no Engineering or air worthiness authority on these aircraft due to thier lack of experience. Signing leave apps ...no probs!
Under EASA Pt 66 rules experience is what counts. Thats 5 years hands on even with a degree before such a licence is awarded. Perhaps MAA should look at practical knowledge, experience and academic achievement rather than academia alone!!
Under EASA Pt 66 rules experience is what counts. Thats 5 years hands on even with a degree before such a licence is awarded. Perhaps MAA should look at practical knowledge, experience and academic achievement rather than academia alone!!
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Collbar - you dont really have clue do you? You're certainly not an engineer. The point was in civy street having a CEng is very beneficial, less so in the Services.
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Oh dear, how embarrassing, I feel for you collbar; you really don't know much about the requirement for CEng.
Sure there is an academic qualification bar but the significant requirement is experience (with defined level of responsibility and time) and demonstrable competency. Experience requirement with IMechE is such that anyone with less than 6 years qualifying experience is unlikely to be presented for or awarded CEng by the UK Engineering Council. As has been said by others: if you are in service then look upon CEng as a professional qualification, something of you that is apart from the RAF. For me I always had my sights on attaining CEng as part of the continuation of my experience within the profession. The need to join and take your part in the “public” body of professional engineering was an idea discussed and encouraged whilst at university.
And just to be clear, if your fees are not paid by the MoD then you certainly are able to offset them in your annual Tax return. CEng is certainly sought outside as a professional qualification, so play the long game and keep an eye to the future.
Sure there is an academic qualification bar but the significant requirement is experience (with defined level of responsibility and time) and demonstrable competency. Experience requirement with IMechE is such that anyone with less than 6 years qualifying experience is unlikely to be presented for or awarded CEng by the UK Engineering Council. As has been said by others: if you are in service then look upon CEng as a professional qualification, something of you that is apart from the RAF. For me I always had my sights on attaining CEng as part of the continuation of my experience within the profession. The need to join and take your part in the “public” body of professional engineering was an idea discussed and encouraged whilst at university.
And just to be clear, if your fees are not paid by the MoD then you certainly are able to offset them in your annual Tax return. CEng is certainly sought outside as a professional qualification, so play the long game and keep an eye to the future.