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Old 3rd Nov 2010, 22:39
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Poppy appeal

Jon Snow rounds on the 'poppy fascists' | People in the News | People | The First Post

I'm with Jon Snow. I pay £10 a month to the RBL (and a considerable amount more goes behind the bar on a friday evening) but I never wear a Poppy. Having lost some very good friends in both combat and peacetime operations I don't feel I need to wear an emblem to remember them.... Remembrance day isn't once a year.... its every day.
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Well, instead of the monthly payment and the additional contribution you piss up against the wall why not get out there and shake the tin. Between december and october rather than donate the tenner why not take a few veterans to a hospital appointment or up to Tescos to get the food in, just go round and swing the lamp with them for an hour or even take them out for a tot. That is looking after our own in a personal way and is far more fulfilling than checking a monthly bank statement.
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Well, instead of the monthly payment and the additional contribution you piss up against the wall why not get out there and shake the tin. Between december and october rather than donate the tenner why not take a few veterans to a hospital appointment or up to Tescos to get the food in, just go round and swing the lamp with them for an hour or even take them out for a tot. That is looking after our own in a personal way and is far more fulfilling than checking a monthly bank statement.
As much as I agree with you I must add that £10 a month towards the RBL is also extremely helpful to individuals such as my father who required financial, legal and health assistance when he left the forces after serving in a number of conflicts.

I agree with Jon Snow that you should be able to celebrate the event in your own personal way.
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I am surprised and delighted to see poppies on sale in Dubai liquor stores.

I have had some strange looks when I wear one, but it is my choice!

Out of interest, does anyone know if they are available in any other countries?

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IIRC Dubai even had a Poppy Appeal Ball or similar last year. Am I imagining that Twin Aisle me old mate? (and congrats on the new job!)
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Am with Jon Snow as well - Rememberance is a personal thing and just because you don't wear a poppy does not mean you forgetting the past or anything. No one should be coerced into wearing any emblem just because someone thinks they should.
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Originally Posted by Rhayader
Well, instead of the monthly payment and the additional contribution you piss up against the wall why not get out there and shake the tin. Between december and october rather than donate the tenner why not take a few veterans to a hospital appointment or up to Tescos to get the food in, just go round and swing the lamp with them for an hour or even take them out for a tot. That is looking after our own in a personal way and is far more fulfilling than checking a monthly bank statement.
This sums up nicely the point Jon Snow was trying to make. The OP donates a tenner a month and it's still not enough for some folk
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Whilst I agree with the sentiment that one should find one's own way of 'celebrating' rememberence, I do feel it behoves those in the public eye to set an example. Even if the only outcome of this example is that it might encourage members of society unaware of the symbology of the poppy to ask why it is worn.
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You will be delighted to know that the Sri Lankan Air Force guys and gals have been selling poppies at Colombo Banderanaike International for the past two weeks. They also sell a beaut wreath of poppies wrapped in cellophane.

SLAF provides the security service to the airport, and they are simply the best. Always immaculately turned out, smiling, pleasant, yet totally professional and efficient, they should be the benchmark, setting the standard for other airport security services around the world.
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Spain, poppies abroad.

RBL have a very active membership in Andalucia, lots of poppies and several fundraising balls.
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I'm partially with Jon Snow in that wearing the Poppy two weeks before Remembrance Day as per BBC newsreaders is ott but I see no reason for public figures not to wear it two or three days before. There are many from the younger generations who genuinely are not aware of the Poppy's significance and exposure to the public wearing of it may cause them to question why and what it means.
Carry on giving your ten quid a month, it'll be put to good use and your bar bill will be welcome too but wear your Poppy too with pride because it's not only the comrades you've lost personally that are remembered but many thousands of others.

We shall remember them
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The Poppy Ball in Dubai has been an annual event for a long time. I was on Loan Service 1998-2002 out there and it was held every year. Usually the organisers got a military band out for the event and much money was raised. Good to hear it is still going.

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I believe that they're also found in France too...
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Jumping on my annual hobby horse, but are they making any sort of impression in Ireland these days? (Corsair, you'd know). Always thought it a shame that the thousands of Irish war dead - volunteers to a man - were airbrushed out of Irish history in the past, but I had heard that things were changing.
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Is not the point about BBC/journos/MPs or whatever is that they are wearing them before they have gone on sale.

Now they may have special arrangements, but one deduction would be they had squirreled away last year's and were recycling them - doing RBL out of the cash.

Shurely shome mishtake ......
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one deduction would be they had squirreled away last year's and were recycling them
Another would be that newsreaders, presenters, guests, celebrity chefs, property makeoverers and all the lovies are fitted out with them, together with the radio mikes, off camera by the studio crew. Where do they get them from? Why you TH, who else? Pained as I am to say so, but VVCA...etc has a point. It really grates every October to see the Beeb displaying its awareness, for it is awareness of what that is the issue. Don't wear the poppy, wear the poppy, it's a personal choice. Make that choice with pride while you may, but take the OP's lead and Remember Them!
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.............and South Africa
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Shake The Tin....

......... whatever next.

A few years ago, I took a group of air cadets to sell poppies in Daventry. A simple task I thought - stupid boy!!

First, the manager of a well known supermarket chain asked that we didn't hang around outside the main door of his store; apparently customers could be embarrassed at being pressurised into buying a poppy, ipso facto bad for supermarket business.

Second, I was to brief the cadets that this was a 'passive' event: rattling the tins and any sort of urging of the great unwashed to buy a poppy was considered 'intimidatory behaviour'.

There are times I do wonder!

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The point about private and personal remembrance is a similar arguement for not going to church of a Sunday.

We are all capable of private remembrance but the point of going to church, and indeed wearing a poppy, is collective remembrance.

That some people wear them in advance of public sale is not oneupmanship but advertising?

I was at an RBL luncheon on 24 Oct. Quite a few poppies were in evidence at the lunch from the Brigadier down.
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As a Poppy "seller" for some fourteen years outside my local upmarket supermarket in surrey,I have rec,eived nothing but the greatest support for the cause from both management and customers alike,last years collection raised£13,000 plus,I am provided with a hot meal,and as many drinks as I need by costa,and I can assure all our lads and lasses serving that our public are behind them mods forgive me for the advert,but God bless Waitrose
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