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Old 5th Nov 2010, 11:49
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When I wear my poppy it is not to help me remember. It is not to show that I care nor is it any other kind of status symbol.

I wear it to make others think, remember or perhaps ask questions about why it is worn. I wear it to support the cause and to perhaps bring in a little more change for the appeal.
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Old 6th Nov 2010, 13:00
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Chacun a son gout (as we must now try to regain our schoolboy french)

I agree that we all remember in our own way those who have laid down their lives that we may be free.
That includes those who we knew as young men with all before them, and who perished both in combat and in flying aeroplanes in the cold war and beyond.

The Poppy is a vital emblem, long may it be so
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Old 6th Nov 2010, 13:32
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...of a Sunday...
Oh dear, PN, such FNM-speak.

Back to poppies, I agree that 'poppy creep' seems to be a meeja thing. I haven't yet encountered a poppy seller in my local town this year, so perhaps there's some luvvies' source which provides them to remind others that it's an important time of year?

Back in the 1950s and 60s, we used to have the proper ones with 'Earl Haig' in the centre - and even posher ones for the cars. Present day ones are rather cheaper looking - which hopefully means that production costs are less, so more money goes to the fund.
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Old 6th Nov 2010, 17:18
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Back in the 1950s and 60s, we used to have the proper ones with 'Earl Haig' in the centre
I understand that Haig's name was removed from the poppy as late as 1994, presumably in response to the general decline in Haig's reputation over the years. The charity is still known as The Haig Fund, however, as far as I know.

In looking this up I discovered that this business of white poppies goes back to the early years after the Great War (I thought it was a lot more recent). Personally I have always thought that the subtext of the white poppy, ie if you wear a white poppy you are anti-war, ergo if you wear a red one you are pro-war is pretty insulting. After all I doubt if anyone could have been more anti-war than someone who had survived the trenches of Flanders or the Burmese jungle, and those guys had no problem wearing red poppies.
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B EAGLE

Re lack of poppy sellers,in my area we find it difficult to get volunteers also,the cadets do a good job,but as us old uns wear out,or cross the bar,not many younger ones seem too keen,sadly, to fill in.

TTN

RE Haig fund,I think it is still refered to as such in Scotland

All the Best

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Old 6th Nov 2010, 20:04
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Jon Snow 'tttttt'

Look at this at Celtic Football Club TODAY Sadly these 'people' are only able to display such disgusting statements because of our troops continued fight and sacrifice to ensure freedom and democracy for all people. My lad has been out with both his football team and his ATC squadron selling poppies and knows and understands why.

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All the more reason to support the poppy appeal,FREEDOM,they have it we do not,suppose we held up banners RAG HEADS OUT,God help us!
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Hopefuly someone in the PSNI TSG has seen this and give the Celtic supporters getting of the ferry tonight a nice warm welcome
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Old 6th Nov 2010, 20:46
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Yes the Beeb supply them to their staff and guests. I took part in a news program last November and a studio gofer went round handing them out, thrusting one in my direction not being able to see the one already on my suit lapel under my outer apparel. As the BBC seem to have them in bulk i hope they make a suitably large donation to RBL.
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Old 7th Nov 2010, 01:22
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Oh! So there's some protocol that we "can't" wear poppies before a certain date, is there?

Where?

They aren't tacky Christmas decs or Easter bunnies. There's no bad taste associated with remembrance 24 x 7 x 365.
Except telling people they "can't" or "shouldn't".
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Oh! So there's some protocol that we "can't" wear poppies before a certain date, is there?
Where?
They aren't tacky Christmas decs or Easter bunnies. There's no bad taste associated with remembrance 24 x 7 x 365.
Except telling people they "can't" or "shouldn't".
Some years ago I made a very poor watercolour of a Lanc taking off - I don't inflict it on anyone save my immediate family and visitors to our living room, but I do hang a poppy on the frame all year round. If I had it in me to do a better painting of a Lanc I might show it somewhere a little more proudly, and hang a poppy on the frame there too.

On another tack, my daughter currently works in Hong Kong and would like to wear a poppy, but she hasn't seen any poppy sellers. Does anyone know where she might find one in this so-recently-British ex-colony?
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Old 7th Nov 2010, 18:15
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Does that banner read

"No bloodstained poppy on our hoops"?

To be fair, that is not where I wear mine either....
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my daughter currently works in Hong Kong and would like to wear a poppy, but she hasn't seen any poppy sellers. Does anyone know where she might find one in this so-recently-British ex-colony?
This link may help: RBL Hong Kong & China - Poppy Appeal 2010

Their appeal takes place on Saturday, 13th November. I get the impression that may be the only day that poppies will be found for sale on the streets of HK.
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Thank you Ray! Link sent to said daughter.
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 11:44
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Oh! So there's some protocol that we "can't" wear poppies before a certain date, is there?

Where?
there is for the RAF (in uniform), and I guess something similar for the other Services. The regulation (AP 1358 para 0132) states:
b. Remembrance Day Poppy. The poppy may be worn from the onset of sales. Poppies are to be removed after the National and local observation of remembrance has concluded each year. The Remembrance Day Poppy is to be worn on parade (see para 133 below).
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 12:04
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I was out Poppy Selling with my ATC unit on Saturday and whilst chatting to the RBL chaps we were supporting they mentioned they can't sell poppies until after the 28th October. They usually get out a couple of days to sell them but rely on shops etc selling them on their behalf the rest of the time.

It was interesting to see who actually donates and wears a poppy. There was a real mixed bag of poeple, old and young, male and female, and whilst there were a lot of people not wearing poppies we had numerous donations from passers-by who didn't actually want one including a couple of donations of £20. So whilst it may appear that not everyone supports the appeal the truth may be very different.
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 12:43
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Poppies

My daughter distributes poppies in Hong Kong, getting over 20,000 $HKG
around the bars and health clubs on the island.
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 13:13
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Does that banner read

"No bloodstained poppy on our hoops"?
No, it reads "BLOOSTAINED". Bit of an own goal. Caused a stir over on Arrse.
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 15:25
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No, it reads "BLOOSTAINED". Bit of an own goal. Caused a stir over on Arrse.
Ah, so the illiterate berks can't spell blue either
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Can anyone explain the reason for the difference in design between the Scottish poppy and the English/Welsh/NI variety?. The later appears to be botanically incorrect because of the addition of a leaf.
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