Decision to axe Harrier is "bonkers".
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alas WEBF is stuck on permanent send with a stuck record stuck in the day when some half arsed jump jet thing was flung off the not very pointy end of a thru deck cruiser cruiser......
I mean if you are gonna hark back to something we will not get again......proper Ark.
Tooms, Buccs, real planes that give "A Full on Robot Chubby" (see Bill n Ted's Bogus Journey)
I mean if you are gonna hark back to something we will not get again......proper Ark.
Tooms, Buccs, real planes that give "A Full on Robot Chubby" (see Bill n Ted's Bogus Journey)
Reserve Forces
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if you look at arsse you will see the army's desire to rebuild/reorient the reserves is in some disarray. Duke of Westminster (who I had not realised had been subject of a Sun/hooker scam) has resigned as head of the TA. pay peanuts - get monkeys (mind you over-endow MPs with expenses and still get monkeys).
if you look at arsse you will see the army's desire to rebuild/reorient the reserves is in some disarray. Duke of Westminster (who I had not realised had been subject of a Sun/hooker scam) has resigned as head of the TA. pay peanuts - get monkeys (mind you over-endow MPs with expenses and still get monkeys).
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HMS Ark Royal 1975 Video 2 Parts LiveLeak
For the 'stormrider':
Hands To Flying Stations 1975 — HMS Ark Royal, Parts 1 & 2
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=141_1312498000&
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ed6_1312498976
“Royal naval instructional film from 1975 featuring Ark Royal & Phantoms, Buccaneers, and other Aircraft on this the last of the full sized aircraft carriers the Royal Navy had. Filmed off Malta in Mediterranean Sea. Nostalgia at its best.”
Hands To Flying Stations 1975 — HMS Ark Royal, Parts 1 & 2
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=141_1312498000&
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ed6_1312498976
“Royal naval instructional film from 1975 featuring Ark Royal & Phantoms, Buccaneers, and other Aircraft on this the last of the full sized aircraft carriers the Royal Navy had. Filmed off Malta in Mediterranean Sea. Nostalgia at its best.”
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I still think that the Government could make this into a success story, by leasing a few AV8Bs from the US
No, why take on all the support expense, aircrew and groundcrew, logs, etc, just on the off chance that we might, one day, get a totally different jumping bean?
Apart from anything else, it took the RAF decades finally to destroy FAA fixed wing, hardly likely to help get it back now.
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Courtney,
I have to take exception to your last post here for a few reasons which can cloud things. I'm assuming you're not trolling either, though as an ex air defender (Nav?) you could be baiting the muds, so here goes:
Utter bolleaux! How about...CAS - which, incidentally, has been the predominant FJ mission for the past 10 years! 'Har' was better than both of GR4 and Typhoon at CAS! The USMC wouldn't still use the AV-8B II it if it wasn't designed as such; it'd scrap both its Harriers and the flat tops and go big deck with more F/A-18s if it wasn't the case. Why was it better? Harrier had bags of thrust, excellent manoeuvrability and fuel efficiency, eye-watering serviceability and a man-machine interface (weapons, targeting pod) that was truly a work of art in GR9. Tornado GR - Deep strike, low and fast in IMC over the east European plains...awesome at it too. F3? Was a good interceptor when it finally got good radar software and AIM-120 (arguably too late!) Typhoon FGR? Awesome at A-D but currently struggling to fulfil the same A-G capability of the GR4/GR9 Disagree? Speak to the Op ELLAMY GR4 crews who had to hold their hands when bombing. Will Typhoon be good at CAS? Probably one day but right now it isn't. Paveway IV is a giant stride towards that goal but it also needs a low collateral, moving target capability and an optimised cockpit, ergonomically speaking - that's critical. Now, GR4 is a very capable platform for CAS but not optimised for it - give it another 5000lbs of thrust (or EJ200s!) and it would be superb!
Does the above change the price of fish? Not at all, but please don't embarass yourself with misinformed opinions.
Oh, and did the RAF kill FAA? Must have missed that headline in the news somewhere....
Kill the thread, please. It's like debating the validity of the debrief after the event - does nobody any good. Move on...
I have to take exception to your last post here for a few reasons which can cloud things. I'm assuming you're not trolling either, though as an ex air defender (Nav?) you could be baiting the muds, so here goes:
Har can't do anything as well as Tornado or Typhoon, except use short runways and we haven't got much in that way now
Does the above change the price of fish? Not at all, but please don't embarass yourself with misinformed opinions.
Oh, and did the RAF kill FAA? Must have missed that headline in the news somewhere....
Kill the thread, please. It's like debating the validity of the debrief after the event - does nobody any good. Move on...
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Bring Back The SE5a
I do believe that the SE5a should be brought back in to service.
Minimal radar cross section. STOL performance, rugged, good in ground attack role and can out turn many modern aircraft
Minimal radar cross section. STOL performance, rugged, good in ground attack role and can out turn many modern aircraft
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MSOCS. You rose to the bait old chap.
Oh, and Courtney despite being a twin seat chap for a lot of his time (stand fast F-15) was at least in the correct seat of the two.
The thread may now die.
Oh, and Courtney despite being a twin seat chap for a lot of his time (stand fast F-15) was at least in the correct seat of the two.
The thread may now die.
MSOCS: Yes, do. Oh, and also who and exactly how you'll re-train the 'few' to fly and operate them across the full spectrum of OS roles safely once again?
The train has left the station, the station has been closed down and the line is covered in grass and weeds.
Move along
Wensleyday Railway have recovered over 10 miles of track and the train IS back in the station I'll have you know
The train has left the station, the station has been closed down and the line is covered in grass and weeds.
Move along
Wensleyday Railway have recovered over 10 miles of track and the train IS back in the station I'll have you know
Please god, let this thread die....
Anyway. From the Wensleydale? Railway site:
Special timetable
Due to water damage, trains will terminate
at Leyburn until Monday 1 October.
We hope to resume the normal timetable
on Tuesday 2 October.
Due to water damage, trains will terminate
at Leyburn until Monday 1 October.
We hope to resume the normal timetable
on Tuesday 2 October.
It would be the same if we resurected the Harrier.
Last edited by Courtney Mil; 29th Sep 2012 at 16:11.
It would be the same if we resurected the Harrier.
resurected
With spelling like that, then is it any wonder WEBF manages to keep this thread going on - and on - and on - and.....................
With spelling like that, then is it any wonder WEBF manages to keep this thread going on - and on - and on - and.....................
Straw poll - does anyone actually agree with WEBF and the ridiculous theories and proposals he comes up with?
Didn't think so.
Now please WEBF - close the thread and stop posting ill-informed rubbish on the internet.
Didn't think so.
Now please WEBF - close the thread and stop posting ill-informed rubbish on the internet.