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My apologies for not referencing my int way back on page 2 earlier.
Comd JHC penned a letter to JHC on the outcome of SDSR detailing what it meant to the Command. In it, he said what was going where, the gist of which was 'no change other than only 12 new CH47 , not 22'. It is linked from the JHC homepage on DII. It is Restricted, which is why I only confirmed that there was no change to what was already on open source. Some of the detail precluded me from linking it or 'copy and paste'-ing it here.
Comd JHC penned a letter to JHC on the outcome of SDSR detailing what it meant to the Command. In it, he said what was going where, the gist of which was 'no change other than only 12 new CH47 , not 22'. It is linked from the JHC homepage on DII. It is Restricted, which is why I only confirmed that there was no change to what was already on open source. Some of the detail precluded me from linking it or 'copy and paste'-ing it here.
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You may also recall that even though the Pumas had been fitted with their very smart one peice sea going suits, the RN wouldn't embark them because 'They are open line refuel' It was then that 72 was offered up, the rest as they say........
You may also recall that even though the Pumas had been fitted with their very smart one peice sea going suits, the RN wouldn't embark them because 'They are open line refuel' It was then that 72 was offered up, the rest as they say........
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And a rolling deck not too clever when the Pume wasn't started.
And as Moggie stated on this forum recently, 847 was so well organised that he got 6 hours Wessex flying helping them disembark....
And of course he was a Flight Lieutenant then ......
And as Moggie stated on this forum recently, 847 was so well organised that he got 6 hours Wessex flying helping them disembark....
And of course he was a Flight Lieutenant then ......
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Refocus on to the thread.
still no answers then: What will happen to all the junglies?
Merlin Mk2 and Wildcat - because that's all we will have left in the FAA (for the next 10+ years). This accounts for, what....20 -25 helicopters..and that's it.
Any dissenters?
still no answers then: What will happen to all the junglies?
Merlin Mk2 and Wildcat - because that's all we will have left in the FAA (for the next 10+ years). This accounts for, what....20 -25 helicopters..and that's it.
Any dissenters?
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TC:
Merlin HMA 2 is still scheduled to cover 30 airframes, and wildcat is expected to be around 28 for the FAA alone. Bit more than the '20-25' total you suggest. Merlin HC3 still scheduled to join the Navy. there's another 25+ right there. Don't forget we also have 12 FJ pilots training with the USN, and 800NAS are due to join them next year...
Merlin HMA 2 is still scheduled to cover 30 airframes, and wildcat is expected to be around 28 for the FAA alone. Bit more than the '20-25' total you suggest. Merlin HC3 still scheduled to join the Navy. there's another 25+ right there. Don't forget we also have 12 FJ pilots training with the USN, and 800NAS are due to join them next year...
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No No No.
That would be silly.
I am talking about the RAF allowing the RN to have some normal typhoon to fly until JSF comes along for the carrier.
Sounds astonishingly unlikely, I know, but the source is impeccable
That would be silly.
I am talking about the RAF allowing the RN to have some normal typhoon to fly until JSF comes along for the carrier.
Sounds astonishingly unlikely, I know, but the source is impeccable
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I do hope so and if correct it's a shame this couldn't have been signed, sealed and delivered before the SDSR announcement. Would have saved acres of bandwidth and multiple Harrier/Carrier threads if nothing else! Be interesting to see if it is aircraft (i.e Naval sqns) or just spaces on RAF sqns. Either way it offers a glimmer of hope for FW/FJ FAA.
Now all we need is for your impeccable source to say we are leasing a MPA platform or two and PPRuNe can return to normal and discuss important aviation issues such as weber BBQs, CEA, fitness tests, samsonite suitcases and asthma
the source is impeccable
Now all we need is for your impeccable source to say we are leasing a MPA platform or two and PPRuNe can return to normal and discuss important aviation issues such as weber BBQs, CEA, fitness tests, samsonite suitcases and asthma
"Now all we need is for your impeccable source to say we are leasing a MPA platform or two and PPRuNe can return to normal and discuss important aviation issues such as weber BBQs, CEA, fitness tests, samsonite suitcases and asthma
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Hows this for starters - does anyone else get asthma attacks lugging all their fitness testing gear, stacks of CEA application forms and BBQs around in one samsonite suitcase?
"Hows this for starters - does anyone else get asthma attacks lugging all their fitness testing gear, stacks of CEA application forms and BBQs around in one samsonite suitcase?
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Thanks guidedweapons for your constructive input. I think you'll find the thread had wandered off somewhat. Chill out sonny.
It seems there is some serious in house jostling for position. Decision makers in the RAF and the RN are making these decisions without government approval.
Speaking to a flag rank last night, I was told the following:
RAF Mk 3 Merlins will not be marinised or sent to the RN.
The brit exchange pilots on the marine JSF course were sent home last week. The lot of them. How many does that leave over there now?
If the carriers are another 10yrs off and there is a further delay to reconfigure the launch system, what might the annual throughput be for FAA FW jocks. Thanks.
It seems there is some serious in house jostling for position. Decision makers in the RAF and the RN are making these decisions without government approval.
Speaking to a flag rank last night, I was told the following:
RAF Mk 3 Merlins will not be marinised or sent to the RN.
The brit exchange pilots on the marine JSF course were sent home last week. The lot of them. How many does that leave over there now?
If the carriers are another 10yrs off and there is a further delay to reconfigure the launch system, what might the annual throughput be for FAA FW jocks. Thanks.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
The brit exchange pilots on the marine JSF course were sent home last week.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Further to the above...
Ares: JSF Friday Roundup .........Meanwhile, Inside Defense (cited by Bob Cox) is reporting another change in the JSF program: the two LRIP-1 F-35As will be instrumented for tests, delivered to Edwards AFB in April 2011 and used for further testing.
Two very important points: They will be flown by USAF Test Pilot School pilots - presumably faculty, not students - rather than the JSF integrated test team. Also, until now they weren't supposed to go to Edwards at all. They were due to go to Eglin, where they would start training Marine instructors in the basics of the jet, an event that was on the critical path to Marine IOC.
Ares: JSF Friday Roundup .........Meanwhile, Inside Defense (cited by Bob Cox) is reporting another change in the JSF program: the two LRIP-1 F-35As will be instrumented for tests, delivered to Edwards AFB in April 2011 and used for further testing.
Two very important points: They will be flown by USAF Test Pilot School pilots - presumably faculty, not students - rather than the JSF integrated test team. Also, until now they weren't supposed to go to Edwards at all. They were due to go to Eglin, where they would start training Marine instructors in the basics of the jet, an event that was on the critical path to Marine IOC.
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There is currently no such unit in the USA called a Marine JSF Course - was he perhaps referring to the British Harrier pilots that were sent home from the United States Marine Corps?
The brit exchange pilots on the marine JSF course were sent home last week.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
There is currently no such unit in the USA called a Marine JSF Course
Following this link from their web site, dated 16th Nov 2009, the first pilot course was due to start this month. "501 (VMFAT-501) will officially stand up as part of the Joint Integrated Training Center located at Eglin Air Force Base, Florida. The work done at Patuxent River will enable the Marine Corps to start training Marine pilots and maintainers at this time next year."
Anyone know if any UK pilots were assigned to the staff or as students?
2nd April 2010: History in the making: First JSF training squadron stands up
A small squadron of Marines marched toward the future of military aviation, April 2. Marine Fighter Attack Training Squadron 501, currently only 37-Marines strong, stood up as the Marine Corps’ F-35B Lightning II training squadron in a ceremony at Eglin Air Force Base, Fla. The squadron is the nation’s first training squadron for the new Joint Strike Fighter, making the ceremony not only a first for the Marine Corps, but for the entire Department of Defense......