Pilot employment chances in "civvy" street
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Pilot employment chances in "civvy" street
Who ranks top of the list for getting a reasonable job after leaving the
services ?
IMHO - Rotary top FJ bottom ??
services ?
IMHO - Rotary top FJ bottom ??
Well you've come out fighting haven't you?!
The way I see it, you're a bloke who clearly doesn't need to worry about such things right now (if your profile information is to be believed) and you appear to be stirring things up at a time when guys are feeling a little bit jaded.
You may not be wanting to kick the Harrier guys in the b@lls but that's the way it came across to me.
Or am I just being a little precious?!
BV
You may not be wanting to kick the Harrier guys in the b@lls but that's the way it came across to me.
Or am I just being a little precious?!
BV
Why place RW above the ME folks?
But as I pointed out in another thread, these days unless you also have a type-rating (preferably A330 or 777), and are happy to relocate to China or Vietnam, there are very few jobs for anybody.
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Just being a little precious BV
Yes my profile is accurate - and no I don't have to worry about such things any more.
I was not trying to kick anyone in the balls - it was a genuine question.
If you look at other postings you will find an awfull lot of duff info
"Don't worry mate plenty of jobs at virgin/ba" what for a Chinook pilot- rubbish !!
... and for "jayteeto" I might be out of touch but as you seem to be employed in civilian RW instead of slagging me off you might give a bit of advise to those who might be looking for a job ??
I was not trying to kick anyone in the balls - it was a genuine question.
If you look at other postings you will find an awfull lot of duff info
"Don't worry mate plenty of jobs at virgin/ba" what for a Chinook pilot- rubbish !!
... and for "jayteeto" I might be out of touch but as you seem to be employed in civilian RW instead of slagging me off you might give a bit of advise to those who might be looking for a job ??
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Advice? OK, do everything you can to stay in and collect your pay for as long as possible.
I saw this coming, jumped ship from the Police ASU I had spent 6 happy years at and got a job with the air ambulance. 6 months later, jobs are like rocking horse poo and there are soon to be a number of experienced, type rated EC135 pilots looking for jobs when these cuts kick in. I have an ATPL(A) as well, I am considering using it to supplement the toilet roll upstairs, because believe me, it is very lean out here. I met an ex naval squadron commander recently who was paying for his own type rating in the hope of getting his cv above others in the company piles.
When I left the RAF in 2003, I took an 18 grand pay cut, but collected an 11 grand pension. Wages have not risen that much.
Things will pick up as they reduce this deficit and jobs are always available if you are prepared to travel and work for buttons. You need to know someone who has influence in a company, the old days of having a mate who is a pilot there have gone. Even bloody McDonalds are not recruiting!!
I saw this coming, jumped ship from the Police ASU I had spent 6 happy years at and got a job with the air ambulance. 6 months later, jobs are like rocking horse poo and there are soon to be a number of experienced, type rated EC135 pilots looking for jobs when these cuts kick in. I have an ATPL(A) as well, I am considering using it to supplement the toilet roll upstairs, because believe me, it is very lean out here. I met an ex naval squadron commander recently who was paying for his own type rating in the hope of getting his cv above others in the company piles.
When I left the RAF in 2003, I took an 18 grand pay cut, but collected an 11 grand pension. Wages have not risen that much.
Things will pick up as they reduce this deficit and jobs are always available if you are prepared to travel and work for buttons. You need to know someone who has influence in a company, the old days of having a mate who is a pilot there have gone. Even bloody McDonalds are not recruiting!!
Many mil pilots find it hard to see a civvy career beyond flying airliners. I think more of us, especially retiring Sqn Ldrs / Wg Cdrs, should aim for executive positions with large firms instead - especially now that the airline industry is beset by virtually-bankrupt "pay to fly" wannabes begging for jobs. As military officers we all have proven leadership, ability to work under pressure, strong work ethic, communication skills etc etc... these are all highly valued in the corporate world and many companies actively seek ex-military people. Army officers have long taken this path and there is no reason why more pilots should not.
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Army officers have long taken this path and there is no reason why more pilots should not.
Think beyond the poling skills. Time was when many of John Lewis's senior management were ex-Forces officers - the current chairman went to RMAS and served in the Scots Guards. Has to be better than working for O'Leary.
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As military officers we all have proven leadership, ability to work under pressure, strong work ethic, communication skills etc etc...
know of several Navs/WSOs/Lookers who did well in the City - they were decisive, numerate and good communicators who could lead/work in a team.
It is a lot tougher nowadays in any profession. Company recruiters tend not to look at long term potential of a recruit and concentrate more on the bottom line - what revenue will this person bring to the company tomorrow? Unless you can show that you are immediately productive in a carefully defined role, then you don't get a look in.
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How long ago was that?
It is a lot tougher nowadays in any profession. Company recruiters tend not to look at long term potential of a recruit and concentrate more on the bottom line - what revenue will this person bring to the company tomorrow? Unless you can show that you are immediately productive in a carefully defined role, then you don't get a look in.
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'...better than working for O'Leary'. I actually work for O'Leary. I have a very good lifestyle and get paid very well. Check your facts first.
the current chairman went to RMAS and served in the Scots Guards. Has to be better than working for O'Leary.
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"Hey guys, it's not only aircrew who will be on their way
At least you 'should' be a lot better off than the guys who supported you! "
Here here. How soon they forget the "little people".....!
At least you 'should' be a lot better off than the guys who supported you! "Here here. How soon they forget the "little people".....!
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Especially ones for whom the difference between here and hear are, apparently, irrelevant. Though I here what you're saying, I'm not sure hear is the place for us to here your grievances, y'here?
Ps - Fully agree with RW at the top...
Ps - Fully agree with RW at the top...
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When you look at the fact that 'cadets' with 200hrs and frozen ATPLs are getting employment, then the chances are going to be good for the FJ and RW chaps with sufficient hours. The ME boys with 2500+ hrs will have a far better chance of LH flying.
That's all very well, but its getting the right pay scale that's the key; that is where the differential will lie.
Poster here are right; there will no doubt be far better better renumeration packages in management than operations; people are going to have to be flexible in their approach to future employment.
Sadly interesting times.
That's all very well, but its getting the right pay scale that's the key; that is where the differential will lie.
Poster here are right; there will no doubt be far better better renumeration packages in management than operations; people are going to have to be flexible in their approach to future employment.
Sadly interesting times.