Blues and two's RAF Police
I had occasion earlier this year to be interviewed under caution as a result of a theft of service equipment from my place of work. Interviewes were delayed by several weeks as there was a jurisdictional spat between the MDP and the RAFP. The MDP treated the matter as a simple (and regrettably all-too-common) theft from my place of work whereas the RAFP regarded it as something altogether more sinsiter. Eventually the RAFP were allowed to interview me under caution. I had the benefit of a good solicitor however it was not required. The interview was very professional, and the investigators were aware of the systemic sy faults that abounded at my workplace. The matter eventually dried up as my solicitor reinterated that I was a victim of a criminal act and that the employer (MOD) had a statutory responsibility to provide a safe and secure (peacetime) working environment.
Mind you, the lap top was never found.
Mind you, the lap top was never found.
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An junior RAF policeman at a base in Germany stole a sub imprest from an officer's locker in our squadron hangar. He was court martialled and found guilty.
The background was worrying for a number of reasons, but in particular:
A) He had no legitimate reason to obtain the keys and enter the locked hangar.
B) He had no way of knowing there was an imprest in the locker and it was hidden amongst the (male) officer's dirty aircrew underwear.
To be fair, he didn't use his blues and twos on his way to the hangar, or on the way back to the guardroom to sign the keys back in. Still a bit of a giveaway, silly chap.
The background was worrying for a number of reasons, but in particular:
A) He had no legitimate reason to obtain the keys and enter the locked hangar.
B) He had no way of knowing there was an imprest in the locker and it was hidden amongst the (male) officer's dirty aircrew underwear.
To be fair, he didn't use his blues and twos on his way to the hangar, or on the way back to the guardroom to sign the keys back in. Still a bit of a giveaway, silly chap.
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The majority of them seem unable to apply common sense when carrying out even the most basic tasks (altough to be fair, most of the dog handlers are seem to be ok).
Take this recent true example: 2 airmen, 1 of them a JNCO, are walking back from the bar in the small hours and see the small Naafi spar shop at the side of the airmans mess unlocked, they've had a drink or 2, but still decide to invstigate. They enter the shop because they know there is a phone inside and call th RAFP, rather than leaving the shop empty and going on foot. RAFP turn up and both are arrested, put in the cells for the night and interviewed in the morning for breaking into the shop. Nothing was missing from the shop, it was simply a case of someone closed the door, didn't lock it and it blew open.
It took a the lads Sqn Ldr a visit to OCA to get them released and the stupid invstigation stopped.
And if that is RAFP bashing then so be it, and no I wasn't one of the lads.
Take this recent true example: 2 airmen, 1 of them a JNCO, are walking back from the bar in the small hours and see the small Naafi spar shop at the side of the airmans mess unlocked, they've had a drink or 2, but still decide to invstigate. They enter the shop because they know there is a phone inside and call th RAFP, rather than leaving the shop empty and going on foot. RAFP turn up and both are arrested, put in the cells for the night and interviewed in the morning for breaking into the shop. Nothing was missing from the shop, it was simply a case of someone closed the door, didn't lock it and it blew open.
It took a the lads Sqn Ldr a visit to OCA to get them released and the stupid invstigation stopped.
And if that is RAFP bashing then so be it, and no I wasn't one of the lads.
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And that says it all about the RAF coppers - in all my dealings with them I met two who were not total p***ks. Thats good odds, two out of about 40.
I have never known such small minded, chips on shoulders, petty, obnoxious and difficult idiots.
Here's one - I was out surfing, took a 10' longboard to my face. Drove back to camp feeling a bit unwell. thought I'd stop at the cop shop and ask if they wouldn't mind ringing the duty medic seeing as how I was still bleeding and all. they tried to arrest me for fighting.
I explained that no - surfing injury etc. eventually they call they duty medic who says - what the **** are you doing - head injury. why is he not being taken to casualty?
so they turf me into the back of the 110 and drive me to Elgin - 110 landrover, no medic, no seatbelt and two coppers driving like arses so they didn't get the car dirty.
And then they said - you can make your own way back!! never mind the concussion etc we're off it's shift change.
I have one word for all those type of people - JACK.
I have never known such small minded, chips on shoulders, petty, obnoxious and difficult idiots.
Here's one - I was out surfing, took a 10' longboard to my face. Drove back to camp feeling a bit unwell. thought I'd stop at the cop shop and ask if they wouldn't mind ringing the duty medic seeing as how I was still bleeding and all. they tried to arrest me for fighting.
I explained that no - surfing injury etc. eventually they call they duty medic who says - what the **** are you doing - head injury. why is he not being taken to casualty?
so they turf me into the back of the 110 and drive me to Elgin - 110 landrover, no medic, no seatbelt and two coppers driving like arses so they didn't get the car dirty.
And then they said - you can make your own way back!! never mind the concussion etc we're off it's shift change.
I have one word for all those type of people - JACK.
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RAF Firemen don't enter burning buildings
WAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sure they are trained in firefighting in buildings, but since their role was to support low flying on SPTA, they wouldn't (couldn't) deal with the office fire.
There were plenty of RAFP there too. Most of them were good eggs. However, one of our Army lancejacks offered banter to one of the SAC Acting (Unpaid) Cpls, and got locked up for his trouble. Cue enraged Troop Staff Sergeant seen to be entering guardroom. Lots of shouting, no more than two minutes elapsed, then seen returning with said LCpl, followed by ashen-faced RAF Policemen out of the guardroom.
Another one tried to stop me for drink-driving, before his pal (also my pal) told him to wind his neck in, he'd seen me drink 2 pints in the Ship.
And of course there were the female RAFP Cpls. Some of whom spent as much time in our (Army) block getting some than they spent in their own block!!!
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I recall a civvie house in a small cul-de-sac at Leuchars suffering a chimney fire.
The base water fairies turned out in one of their enormous airfield tenders but only really succeded in blocking the street when the part-timers from wherever (Tayport?) arrived.
Still, the thought was there I guess.
The base water fairies turned out in one of their enormous airfield tenders but only really succeded in blocking the street when the part-timers from wherever (Tayport?) arrived.
Still, the thought was there I guess.
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A few years ago I was a Puma OCU QHI. On returning to Odiham from a training sortie, the staff QCI on board observed a serious car accident in progress on the busy M3, immediately adjacent to the westbound North Warnborough exit slip road. A car had hit the central reservation, turned over onto its roof, and instantly burst into flames. No-one got out.
I advised ATC what had just happened with a request for the emergency services to attend. I also advised them I intended to land to offer what assistance we could. I put the Puma on the grass central reservation of the main road, by the M3 exit roundabout, and shut down. One crewman ran down the slip road to the scene, carrying our big BCF cabin fire extinguisher and the aircraft first aid kit.
The car fire was extinguished and the dazed occupant was pulled safely out of the car. The crewman returned, having had a big thankyou from the police (turned out the car was stolen and was being pursued by the boys in blue from London, so the driver was arrested).
On my return to Odiham I received a message to immediately contact the RAF Police, which I did. I was told by said corporal policeman that I was accused of landing my helicopter on the M3 to pick up a hitch-hiker (presumably my returning crewman) which was apparently an offence.
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I advised ATC what had just happened with a request for the emergency services to attend. I also advised them I intended to land to offer what assistance we could. I put the Puma on the grass central reservation of the main road, by the M3 exit roundabout, and shut down. One crewman ran down the slip road to the scene, carrying our big BCF cabin fire extinguisher and the aircraft first aid kit.
The car fire was extinguished and the dazed occupant was pulled safely out of the car. The crewman returned, having had a big thankyou from the police (turned out the car was stolen and was being pursued by the boys in blue from London, so the driver was arrested).
On my return to Odiham I received a message to immediately contact the RAF Police, which I did. I was told by said corporal policeman that I was accused of landing my helicopter on the M3 to pick up a hitch-hiker (presumably my returning crewman) which was apparently an offence.
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HOWEVER!!
Some threads on Mil are trash stuff sometimes and we have culled a fair few this last 24hrs. So if any of you deal in garbage you best stay away.
We have better things to do than give succour to village idiots.
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Some threads on Mil are trash stuff sometimes and we have culled a fair few this last 24hrs. So if any of you deal in garbage you best stay away.
We have better things to do than give succour to village idiots.
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