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Eurofighter: Training Flights Temporarily Suspended
(Source: Austrian Ministry of Defence; issued Sept. 15, 2010)
(Issued in German; unofficial translation by defense-aerospace.com)
VIENNA --- The Eurofighter user countries were recommended to discontinue exercise and training flights of the Eurofighter because of a perceived safety problem in the ejection seat.
This is a normal procedure to ensure safety.
The interruption was necessary because, if mishandled, the parachute could become separated from the ejection seat in case of ejection.
Pilots are being trained in the new procedures. Thereafter, the training and exercise operations are resumed.
This measure has no effect on the supervision and monitoring of air space.
Eurofighter will continue to carry out operational missions - so-called A-priority flights - and remains fully operational.
(Source: Austrian Ministry of Defence; issued Sept. 15, 2010)
(Issued in German; unofficial translation by defense-aerospace.com)
VIENNA --- The Eurofighter user countries were recommended to discontinue exercise and training flights of the Eurofighter because of a perceived safety problem in the ejection seat.
This is a normal procedure to ensure safety.
The interruption was necessary because, if mishandled, the parachute could become separated from the ejection seat in case of ejection.
Pilots are being trained in the new procedures. Thereafter, the training and exercise operations are resumed.
This measure has no effect on the supervision and monitoring of air space.
Eurofighter will continue to carry out operational missions - so-called A-priority flights - and remains fully operational.
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Only training flights have been suspended, aircraft are still standing on QRA, except for Germany.
The grounding is caused by an issue with the Mk16A. Through wrong handling it could happen that the chute disconnects from the pilot. It appears that this happened to the Saudi pilot who died in the crash on August 24.
The grounding is caused by an issue with the Mk16A. Through wrong handling it could happen that the chute disconnects from the pilot. It appears that this happened to the Saudi pilot who died in the crash on August 24.
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It's not meant to seperate from the pilot though!
When I saw grounded I thought it would be lack of tyres or lack of solid state 'tapes' that record the missions....
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It's not meant to seperate from the pilot though!
I gather there are other a/c fitted with the same seat !
This will be keeping MB busy, having just got over the issue with the Hawk seat, they now get this.
This will be keeping MB busy, having just got over the issue with the Hawk seat, they now get this.
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I find it impossible to believe that, after more than half a century of excellence, one of Martin Baker's products would suffer an endemic flaw.
My money is on isolated 'finger trouble' at the coal face.
My money is on isolated 'finger trouble' at the coal face.
Bakseetblatherer,
Given that Scorpion suggested that a Saudi pilot died following seat problems, I think that your comment of
is in exceedingly poor taste.
Given that Scorpion suggested that a Saudi pilot died following seat problems, I think that your comment of
Those single seat pilots need to man up, sheesh
All very sad,.
As I'm sure many of us know "strange" things happen during live ejections that are beyond the foresight of the boffins at MB (and the other seat makers).
Anybody else here old enough to remember the pins fitted to the Koch fasteners on torso harnesses used with MB seats in the 70s? As far as I recall it the retrofit came about as a result of the sad loss of a Harrier pilot ( I think) when he became detached from his 'chute during the ejection process.
As I'm sure many of us know "strange" things happen during live ejections that are beyond the foresight of the boffins at MB (and the other seat makers).
Anybody else here old enough to remember the pins fitted to the Koch fasteners on torso harnesses used with MB seats in the 70s? As far as I recall it the retrofit came about as a result of the sad loss of a Harrier pilot ( I think) when he became detached from his 'chute during the ejection process.
It was part of the torso harness assembly so I doubt you'd have seen it on the JP, dunno about the Victor.
Basically (?) you had your own personal harness which was attached in part to the seat at each shoulders by a strap which latched into a fastener. As far as I recall it if the fastner(s) got hit by something, say part of the seat body, during the ejection/seat separation process, it was possible for them to come undone ( I seem to recall the medics demonstrating this with a rubber mallet and a fastener during the N. Luffenham course).
The "fix" was an extra pin which was inserted into the fastener body after it was done up, on strapping in, to block release. It was then part of the parachute decent drills to pull the pins -the story was that once the fastners were under tension they couldn't come unlatched accidently
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Basically (?) you had your own personal harness which was attached in part to the seat at each shoulders by a strap which latched into a fastener. As far as I recall it if the fastner(s) got hit by something, say part of the seat body, during the ejection/seat separation process, it was possible for them to come undone ( I seem to recall the medics demonstrating this with a rubber mallet and a fastener during the N. Luffenham course).
The "fix" was an extra pin which was inserted into the fastener body after it was done up, on strapping in, to block release. It was then part of the parachute decent drills to pull the pins -the story was that once the fastners were under tension they couldn't come unlatched accidently
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