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Typhoon Ejector Seat
Pertinent comment please -oh, sorry, this is the rumour network. Best fact I can find is at:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/8010686/RAF-Typhoon-jets-grounded-amid-safety-concerns.html
Good time to find the problem. If the only operational type were the Typhoon, and the snag was fundamental .... Maybe scrapping both the Tornado and the Harrier would be a bit risky?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/8010686/RAF-Typhoon-jets-grounded-amid-safety-concerns.html
Good time to find the problem. If the only operational type were the Typhoon, and the snag was fundamental .... Maybe scrapping both the Tornado and the Harrier would be a bit risky?
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The problem is that if not put on correctly the harness's safety belt lock is not really locked and can be opened if something hits it for example and this appears to have happened to the Saudi pilot. On the harness used by Tornado an Phantom pilots for example, there is an additional clip which should prevent the belt lock from opening unintentionally.
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The latest post begs the question whether the Saudi pilot was correctly instructed and supervised. I know that they chose to train in Spain instead of at Coningsby - would RAF instruction have avoided this loss or was it an unknown issue?
The QRB has been designed to release the straps when in unlocked position if it is pressed or struck. For normal operation it is in the closed or locked configeration and is a well tried system. This can be an easy mistake to make if not properly checked or drilled. There are visual checks made to see what "mode" it is in when worn and is a reliable piece of kit when used properly.
Does anyone know what happened on ejection to the Saudi pilot? Did harness totally release from him?
The Koch pins were never fitted to seats in the JP or Victor and were only fitted to a limited number seat types fitted in F4J Phantoms*, some Buccs and early Harriers in RAF service. (*-US surplus).
Does anyone know what happened on ejection to the Saudi pilot? Did harness totally release from him?
The Koch pins were never fitted to seats in the JP or Victor and were only fitted to a limited number seat types fitted in F4J Phantoms*, some Buccs and early Harriers in RAF service. (*-US surplus).
Thread drift jg but
The F4M seats had the koch pins up until the simplified combined harness was introduced in 80/81.
The Koch pins were only fitted to a limited number seat types fitted in F4J Phantoms...
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Hang on. IIRC the QRF is 'loaded' by turning against a spring one way which allows the locking plate to be free to float and the harness lugs to be pushed in. The knob is then simply released and that's it locked. It needs no positive action.
To release it's turned a click the opposite way then pressed. When it's in the unlocked it's pretty obvious because the lines don't match.
I stand to be corrected on any of this as it's well over a decade since I saw a QRF and the closest I got to Typhoon kit was the RAF SAM prototypes. (are they still called FAGOTS?)
To release it's turned a click the opposite way then pressed. When it's in the unlocked it's pretty obvious because the lines don't match.
I stand to be corrected on any of this as it's well over a decade since I saw a QRF and the closest I got to Typhoon kit was the RAF SAM prototypes. (are they still called FAGOTS?)
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This is what I were told, and I make no apologies if the info is wrong.
Saudi tips up to sign something, saudi offered a flight in Typhoon at last minute, rush job putting saudi chap in to the seat, pitot covers not removed, Typhoon spazzes out on take off, pilot/instructor in rear seat bangs both out, front seat goes one way, saudi chap the other.
Like I said, may be bo11ocks.
Saudi tips up to sign something, saudi offered a flight in Typhoon at last minute, rush job putting saudi chap in to the seat, pitot covers not removed, Typhoon spazzes out on take off, pilot/instructor in rear seat bangs both out, front seat goes one way, saudi chap the other.
Like I said, may be bo11ocks.
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RAF Typhoons are flying again.
RAF resumes Eurofighter operations after ejection seat fix-20/09/2010-London-Flightglobal.com
The Austrian Air Force has resumed flying as well.
RAF resumes Eurofighter operations after ejection seat fix-20/09/2010-London-Flightglobal.com
The Austrian Air Force has resumed flying as well.
