British troops investigated for heroin smuggling??
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British troops investigated for heroin smuggling??
No Way!,
I really hope this is not true:
BBC News - British troops investigated for heroin smuggling
I know a few incidents of cartons of tabs coming back from Dhahran, but this would not be good, .
I really hope this is not true:
BBC News - British troops investigated for heroin smuggling
I know a few incidents of cartons of tabs coming back from Dhahran, but this would not be good, .
I can't see someone with access to opium (OMLT etc working with ANA/ANP) thinking they could get away with it and getting together with someone working at the airhead. It just seems unlikely.
That said, I really hope it isn't true.
That said, I really hope it isn't true.
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The MoD spokeswoman, uses the term 'troops', the BBC translated this to 'soldiers'!
To me 'troops' is a collective term that can include personel from the RAF & RN.
To me 'troops' is a collective term that can include personel from the RAF & RN.
To me 'troops' is a collective term that can include personel from the RAF & RN.
Certainly not in my book, Ian, any more than "soldiers" includes Marines!
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Certainly not in my book, Ian, any more than "soldiers" includes Marines!
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Jack,
Whilst agreeing about soldiers and Marines, I never had a problem being one of the troops.
Mind you, I was never refered to as a Troopie or Squadie! They were terms definitly reserved for the Army.
Whilst agreeing about soldiers and Marines, I never had a problem being one of the troops.
Mind you, I was never refered to as a Troopie or Squadie! They were terms definitly reserved for the Army.
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Small beer in the general scheme of things, but the media will exploit it.
I propose a two year plan for dealing with the heroin problem:
Year 1, alternative (subsidised) cash crops for the Afghan farmers, amnesty for the traffickers/dealers and understanding treatment for the junkies.
Year 2 would involve napalm, shooting and cold turkey.
I propose a two year plan for dealing with the heroin problem:
Year 1, alternative (subsidised) cash crops for the Afghan farmers, amnesty for the traffickers/dealers and understanding treatment for the junkies.
Year 2 would involve napalm, shooting and cold turkey.
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Year 2 would involve napalm, shooting and cold turkey
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The MoD spokeswoman, uses the term 'troops', the BBC translated this to 'soldiers'!
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If only others could think of things like that!
Wholesale crop destruction generally only hurts the farmers that are already being exploited - thus driving them away from the Afghan government and international allies. It would also drive the street price of opiates up (as it did when teh Taliban order that production ceased) and thus make more money for the Drug Traffickers who, it is assessed, alrady have enough stockpiles for 3 years of world demand.
If only others could think of things like that!
alternative (subsidised) cash crops for the Afghan farmers (Already happening - any Governer Led Eradication (poor wording but not mine) only takes place in areas where alterntaive livelihood programmes are in operation), amnesty for the traffickers/dealers (Why? these people are crooks - exploiting the population and funding most the the corruption in Afghanistan that feeds the insurgents' 'cause')and understanding treatment for the junkies. (Already happening in Afghanistan)
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The thought of the criminal world "tooling up" to defeat the US military and security services is laughable. If those who grow the stuff don't get the message then we'll have a second round of napalming/general burning of things until the message gets through. Hearts and minds is irrelevant, it doesn't work.
Stockpiles? Find them and burn them.
There will be no "street price" after year 1.
But won't happen, too many bleeding heart liberals on both sides of the Atlantic.
Edit: Am I ranting? That is a possibility ..
Stockpiles? Find them and burn them.
There will be no "street price" after year 1.
But won't happen, too many bleeding heart liberals on both sides of the Atlantic.
Edit: Am I ranting? That is a possibility ..
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The thought of the criminal world "tooling up" to defeat the US military and security services is laughable.
Hearts and minds is irrelevant, it doesn't work.
If we gave the people that wanted heroin, heroin wouldn't the money going to terrorists kind of er - stop?
Or is there some aspect to the demand / supply chain that is applicable to all other products in the world accept scag?
Or is there some aspect to the demand / supply chain that is applicable to all other products in the world accept scag?
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SIB getting 24hr notice to move to that area before the press release (I know I shouldn’t admit I have an SIB friend
), suggests very much an investigation was/is being carried out. Whether there is any evidence is another thing
SIB getting 24hr notice to move to that area before the press release (I know I shouldn’t admit I have an SIB friend
), suggests very much an investigation was/is being carried out. Whether there is any evidence is another thing
If we gave the people that wanted heroin, heroin wouldn't the money going to terrorists kind of er - stop?
If we gave alcohol to all the drunks who wanted it wouldn't we just have a lot of piss-heads lying in their own puke in the street, demanding another drink?
Nope.
I didn't say make it easier to become an addict. I said 'Take away the profit from drug dealers and at the same time you'll also take away the impact of 'petty' and often violent crime by addicts who will do anything to get a fix of low quality junk.'
Because we have pubs, off-licenses, parties and clubs it's really impossible to get to work isn't it? What with the drunks lying in the street, the fights, the gun battles to win supply rights of illegal liquor, the blind an ill from taking bad booze....
Just give addicts heroin and lets move on. Bit sad to me that our soldiers are dying because we can't treat addiction as a health and education issue not a law / order / terrorism / war issue.
And are you suggesting that if heroin was legal you'd be rushing off to grab a syringe first chance you got to go and get completely monged off your tits and spend all day in an opium haze, no use to anyone?
If you wouldn't why would you think the rest of us would?
I didn't say make it easier to become an addict. I said 'Take away the profit from drug dealers and at the same time you'll also take away the impact of 'petty' and often violent crime by addicts who will do anything to get a fix of low quality junk.'
Because we have pubs, off-licenses, parties and clubs it's really impossible to get to work isn't it? What with the drunks lying in the street, the fights, the gun battles to win supply rights of illegal liquor, the blind an ill from taking bad booze....
Just give addicts heroin and lets move on. Bit sad to me that our soldiers are dying because we can't treat addiction as a health and education issue not a law / order / terrorism / war issue.
And are you suggesting that if heroin was legal you'd be rushing off to grab a syringe first chance you got to go and get completely monged off your tits and spend all day in an opium haze, no use to anyone?
If you wouldn't why would you think the rest of us would?
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