F-35 Cancelled, then what ?
Rhino, I have a vague memory from back in the 80's (even early 90's?) when some old USN frigates and some F-16's were held up (original destination Pakistan) due to a similar political mess.
And then eventually the hold on the transfer/sale was rescinded. Trump seems to be doing the same thing with this move. Note the "90 day review" thing ...
And then eventually the hold on the transfer/sale was rescinded. Trump seems to be doing the same thing with this move. Note the "90 day review" thing ...
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
Rhino, I have a vague memory from back in the 80's (even early 90's?) when some old USN frigates and some F-16's were held up (original destination Pakistan) due to a similar political mess.
And then eventually the hold on the transfer/sale was rescinded
And then eventually the hold on the transfer/sale was rescinded
They did eventually get new F-16s though.
Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
Note the "90 day review" thing ...
-RP
They almost went to New Zealand before the then new Govt scrapped their fixed wing combat arm
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
And Iran never got the 160 F-16s they had on order at al - or spares for their F-4s or F-14s. Whether Turkey does will depend on how it goes from here.
I do wonder if the cores and other sensitive paints of the US B-61 Bombs at Incirlik are still in place......
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2017...ey-raise-alarm
I do wonder if the cores and other sensitive paints of the US B-61 Bombs at Incirlik are still in place......
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2017...ey-raise-alarm
F35 Cannon
Just read this 'According toGuns.com, the F-35 cannon can only fire 55 rounds per second, but it must fire relatively slowly to conserve ammunition. That conservation is important for the F-35, as the plane can hold only a 220-round magazine. If fired at 55 rounds per second continuously, the F-35 would run out of ammunition within four seconds..
Don't think that is much cop.
Don't think that is much cop.
Just read this 'According toGuns.com, the F-35 cannon can only fire 55 rounds per second, but it must fire relatively slowly to conserve ammunition. That conservation is important for the F-35, as the plane can hold only a 220-round magazine. If fired at 55 rounds per second continuously, the F-35 would run out of ammunition within four seconds..
Don't think that is much cop.
Don't think that is much cop.
Just read this 'According toGuns.com, the F-35 cannon can only fire 55 rounds per second, but it must fire relatively slowly to conserve ammunition. That conservation is important for the F-35, as the plane can hold only a 220-round magazine. If fired at 55 rounds per second continuously, the F-35 would run out of ammunition within four seconds..
Don't think that is much cop.
Don't think that is much cop.
I gather that the MiG-29 only carries about 100 rounds. But the advent of highly accurate gun sights, plus the excellent combined IRSTS / laser ranger gives the aircraft the capability of a 'single round kill'.
No need these days to blatter away with 4 x 30mm Aden hoping that you might get some rounds near enough to the opposition to take it out.
No need these days to blatter away with 4 x 30mm Aden hoping that you might get some rounds near enough to the opposition to take it out.
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I gather that the MiG-29 only carries about 100 rounds. But the advent of highly accurate gun sights, plus the excellent combined IRSTS / laser ranger gives the aircraft the capability of a 'single round kill'.
No need these days to blatter away with 4 x 30mm Aden hoping that you might get some rounds near enough to the opposition to take it out.
No need these days to blatter away with 4 x 30mm Aden hoping that you might get some rounds near enough to the opposition to take it out.
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I wouldn't worry about the B-61s at Incirlik - good luck trying to get one out of a WS3 ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon...ecurity_System
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Hi Beagle,
I have of course heard of various folk over the years whose ability to use the cannon effectively were simply amazing.
As the unelected voice of ‘the rest of us’ - even with a very accurate aiming group provided by the excellent APG-79 on the Super Hornet - I would humbly suggest that the ‘single shot kill’ with a cannon is never going to happen. A ‘single shot hit’ in anything other than a stable tail chase like scenario would (for the likes of me) be a miracle.
I think the ‘small number of hits managed out of a 100 round burst at fleeting target’ is probably more likely.
The approved technique is to recognise potential passage of target through ones HUD. Select gun. Trigger down. Make lame attempt at leading target. Over control a little. Watch target flash through. Release trigger. Watch tape later.
I have of course heard of various folk over the years whose ability to use the cannon effectively were simply amazing.
As the unelected voice of ‘the rest of us’ - even with a very accurate aiming group provided by the excellent APG-79 on the Super Hornet - I would humbly suggest that the ‘single shot kill’ with a cannon is never going to happen. A ‘single shot hit’ in anything other than a stable tail chase like scenario would (for the likes of me) be a miracle.
I think the ‘small number of hits managed out of a 100 round burst at fleeting target’ is probably more likely.
The approved technique is to recognise potential passage of target through ones HUD. Select gun. Trigger down. Make lame attempt at leading target. Over control a little. Watch target flash through. Release trigger. Watch tape later.
The nine F-35Bs delivered to Marham don’t seem to have flown much - a few airshow flypasts and not much more. And yet they’re supposed to be working up to IOC by the year end. It can’t be that everyone’s in the sim cos those haven’t been delivered yet. Is it a UK MAA issue, or what?
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F-35 nose gear 'collapse'...
Oi, I resemble that remark.
Jackonicko does have a point though, I live nearby and get Tornado, F15, Apache, Osprey, the odd Tucano and Merlin. No sign of Lightning, nor have the spotter sites had anything.
Have we maybe used this year's allocation of petrol? Something has to fund that TG1 FRI
Jackonicko does have a point though, I live nearby and get Tornado, F15, Apache, Osprey, the odd Tucano and Merlin. No sign of Lightning, nor have the spotter sites had anything.
Have we maybe used this year's allocation of petrol? Something has to fund that TG1 FRI