Israel asks for 20 F35's
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Sorry for thread drift.
Main point was meant to be: Israelis: If you want planes, F-35 or others, buy them your feckin selves.
Then you will be able to bomb the poor idiots whose land you stole back in 1948, interest free.
Thank God for Israel. Where would we be without you?
Sorry for thread drift.
Main point was meant to be: Israelis: If you want planes, F-35 or others, buy them your feckin selves.
Then you will be able to bomb the poor idiots whose land you stole back in 1948, interest free.
Thank God for Israel. Where would we be without you?
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Not to quibble about who stole whose land, but the Jews were there 2000 years ago--they just took a vacation and all these squatters were there!
Anyway I'm just glad not all the foreign military sales for the F-35 are flaking out on us. The UK is looking pretty shaky, not to mention the USN, and the price increases are beginning to be reminiscent of the F-22.
I'm sure the Israelis will be able to give us real-world OPEVAL of both its air-to-air and air-to-ground capability--bonus!
Anyway I'm just glad not all the foreign military sales for the F-35 are flaking out on us. The UK is looking pretty shaky, not to mention the USN, and the price increases are beginning to be reminiscent of the F-22.
I'm sure the Israelis will be able to give us real-world OPEVAL of both its air-to-air and air-to-ground capability--bonus!
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Decommisioned!
EDO/ITT supplied military components for the VER-2, the main bomb rack for Israel's F-16s.
When Israel was using F-16s to kill hundreds of civilians (including 350 children) in Gaza last year, activists broke into their Brighton factory, smashed up the production line and closed the factory.
After hearing evidence of Israeli war crimes the jury at their trial found all the activists not guilty of conspiracy to cause criminal damage because they had been acting to prevent a greater crime.
The ”decommissioners” as they are known said their actions were in response to the atrocities being committed in Gaza . “The international community appeared to be completely helpless. The UN could not even protect its own compounds. The only light at the end of the tunnel for the people of Palestine is if ordinary people like us take direct action on their behalf."
EDO Decommissioners Victorious Corporate Watch – Tracking Corporate Complicity in the Occupation of Palestine
When Israel was using F-16s to kill hundreds of civilians (including 350 children) in Gaza last year, activists broke into their Brighton factory, smashed up the production line and closed the factory.
After hearing evidence of Israeli war crimes the jury at their trial found all the activists not guilty of conspiracy to cause criminal damage because they had been acting to prevent a greater crime.
The ”decommissioners” as they are known said their actions were in response to the atrocities being committed in Gaza . “The international community appeared to be completely helpless. The UN could not even protect its own compounds. The only light at the end of the tunnel for the people of Palestine is if ordinary people like us take direct action on their behalf."
EDO Decommissioners Victorious Corporate Watch – Tracking Corporate Complicity in the Occupation of Palestine
Got any evidence of the 'hundreds of civilians including 350 children' Butchie?
Any undisputable evidence? As opposed to questionable Hamas propaganda or the 'testimony' of a load of hand-wringing Brighton hippies?
I have a feeling I know where this thread is headed.........
Any undisputable evidence? As opposed to questionable Hamas propaganda or the 'testimony' of a load of hand-wringing Brighton hippies?
I have a feeling I know where this thread is headed.........
jury at their trial found all the activists not guilty of conspiracy to cause criminal damage because they had been acting to prevent a greater crime.
I can't see that 'acting to prevent a greater crime' appears in the links you've provided.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Anyway I'm just glad not all the foreign military sales for the F-35 are flaking out on us.
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Just another case of the criminal justice system going down the sh*tter in the UK, if a bunch of no-job, no hope, aching-conscience, self loathing middle class spotty student tw@ts can argue their "direct" action is justified as part of the greater good. 
Where did they get the jury from? Brick Lane?
I could/should have thought of that line of defence and gone and pressed a Browning Hi Power to a former Labour party leader's temple and see where that would have got me. "Honestly, your honour, I was doing the country a favour."
Where did they get the jury from? Brick Lane?
I could/should have thought of that line of defence and gone and pressed a Browning Hi Power to a former Labour party leader's temple and see where that would have got me. "Honestly, your honour, I was doing the country a favour."
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Maybe they do.
In all seriousness, I'd wager a pound to a pinch of s*** that those who were guilty of the break in and trashing the place have not even met any Palestinians, diaspora or not, let alone been within 500 miles of Gaza or the West Bank. Not good enough reason to go into a place you've got no business to be in and trash the joint.
And I think the comment about the justice system going down the pan was perfectly justified, if the case is indeed true. Any judicial system that would allow this kind of criminal damage to go unpunished whilst using RIPA against homeowners with wheelie-bin lids that dont close or prosecuting a pet shop owner for selling a goldfish to a teenager is an ass. And thats putting it very politely.
In all seriousness, I'd wager a pound to a pinch of s*** that those who were guilty of the break in and trashing the place have not even met any Palestinians, diaspora or not, let alone been within 500 miles of Gaza or the West Bank. Not good enough reason to go into a place you've got no business to be in and trash the joint.
And I think the comment about the justice system going down the pan was perfectly justified, if the case is indeed true. Any judicial system that would allow this kind of criminal damage to go unpunished whilst using RIPA against homeowners with wheelie-bin lids that dont close or prosecuting a pet shop owner for selling a goldfish to a teenager is an ass. And thats putting it very politely.
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jury at their trial found all the activists not guilty of conspiracy to cause criminal damage because they had been acting to prevent a greater crime.
That's an interesting concept for a jury to make a decision on.
I can't see that 'acting to prevent a greater crime' appears in the links you've provided.
jury at their trial found all the activists not guilty of conspiracy to cause criminal damage because they had been acting to prevent a greater crime.
That's an interesting concept for a jury to make a decision on.
I can't see that 'acting to prevent a greater crime' appears in the links you've provided.
you should point out the terms and conditions were incredibly favorable to the UK.
Other than that - it was great.
if ordinary people like us take direct action on their behalf."
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Just another case of the criminal justice system going down the sh*tter in the UK, if a bunch of no-job, no hope, aching-conscience, self loathing middle class spotty student tw@ts can argue their "direct" action is justified as part of the greater good. 
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No, a little earlier involvement would probably have helped.
One could wonder if the Czechs thought the same thing in 1938 or the Poles during "The Phoney War" while the BEF and French Army sat behind their line with the vast majority of the Wehrmacht visiting Poland? But that would be poor form would it not?
No comments about Hamas' claiming "credit" for murdering those four Israelis at the start of this current round of peace talks? Lots of furor about Isreal responding to rocket attacks originating from Gaza, but nary a word about events like this.
A message there perhaps?
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Bomb racks for the F-16, if I recall the story correctly. An accessory, if you like.