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Hawks Grounded (merged with Hawk Display Cancelled)

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Old 27th Jul 2010, 17:51
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Hawks Grounded (merged with Hawk Display Cancelled)

BBC News - Fault grounds aircraft at Anglesey RAF base
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Well spotted that man.
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 19:25
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Indeed!

Takes me back to 1975 when some sharp-eyed groundcrew lad spotted that the seat-to-backpack cable on several Folland bang seats wasn't connected correctly. A fleet check revealed the same fault on other seats; had the pilot needed to use the seat, proper parachute deployment would have been very unlikely.

Regrettably, the cause was identified as sabotage.

Thank heavens for the excellence of the RAF's groundcrew and their unquestionable diligence.
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Presumably the chap concerned at Valley will be a civilian working for the current contractor, whoever that is at the moment. Well done that man.
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Contractor is BAE.
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I bet the MB King Air will be seen there tonight ...
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Praise where Praise is due.....

I hope the finder gets at least a " Well done" if not a "Good show" mention in Airclues.......
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Is this all hawks ? RAFAT ? Royal Navy Hawks ? or just Valley hawks?
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Vec,

Take a look at the article you posted.

The grounding request affects all training Hawk aircraft in the UK that are fitted with a mark 10 ejection seat.
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 21:27
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Regrettably, the cause was identified as sabotage.
There was a similar case at Valley in the late 90s which was also attributed to sabotage on the grounds that there was no other possible explanation for the seat being in the state it was found in.
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 21:30
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The Mk 10 seat is fitted to many different types of aircraft
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 22:25
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What are the odds that the Reds will be the priority fix?
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Old 27th Jul 2010, 22:29
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The priority will be for individual eng units to fix their own aircraft.
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Of course, but it is the 'Display Season'............... Not that I'm suggesting resources will be expedited to any particular RAF recruiting medium.....
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There was a similar case at Valley in the late 90s which was also attributed to sabotage on the grounds that there was no other possible explanation for the seat being in the state it was found in.
Was a case in Germany too when the Boss found his Jag drogue was disconnected in the head rest........ Sabotage was suspected and everyone was interviewed by the SIB........ nothing ever came of it, sad that these things happen........ Personally didn't like the guy, but I wouldn't wish that on anyone.....
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Any news on what this "issue" was?
PM if needed?
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Old 28th Jul 2010, 08:37
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BAE is the prime, but the vast majority of the work and all hands on aircraft work is sub contracted to Babcock.
 
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Any idea what the actual snag is? Is it just on Mk.10 seats in Hawks or could it be in all Mk.10s which are in numerous different aircraft?
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Well spotted; always bound to get a few teething problems when a new type enters service,
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Well spotted; always bound to get a few teething problems when a new type enters service,
Shy, tell us about the problems you spotted when the Sycamore entered service!

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