Ascent recruiting King Air aircrew
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Silly me - I forgot the MOD doesn't procure anything state of the art! The KA is a 1969 design - nearly as old as the Jetstream!
You see, where the BAES went wrong was not making a "iJetstream or Jetsream-i". It seems by just putting an "i" in the title these days and "hey presto" it's bang up to date!
Beechcraft King Air 350i Turboprop: Overview
Beechcraft King Air 350i Turboprop: Overview
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Many people have slagged off the UKMFTS for no other reason other than it exchanges military jobs for civilian jobs.
In these times with little easing of Op Tempo in sight, what's wrong with a post that our folk can relax a little and see their families' for a tour? There is no doubt that this has already had an effect in the RAF with the numbers of posts available for QFIs being reduced (though not for the same reason).
What happens after the last generation of ex-Service instructors retire - will the through-and-through civvy instructor be able to offer the same product? We will, no doubt, find out in due course.
What happens after the last generation of ex-Service instructors retire - will the through-and-through civvy instructor be able to offer the same product? We will, no doubt, find out in due course.
There won't be any money to repair the damage; neither will there be sufficient people to train as QFIs by the remnants of CFS once this whole sad, sorry mess collapses in on itself.
Rule No. 1 is never seek employment from someone expecting you to 'top up' your Service pension with their salary!
For pilots, they will need to compete with the salary scale and Ts&Cs for a line captain with airlines such as flybe or Eastern Airlines at the very least.
If they cannot match them, WALK AWAY!!
For pilots, they will need to compete with the salary scale and Ts&Cs for a line captain with airlines such as flybe or Eastern Airlines at the very least.
If they cannot match them, WALK AWAY!!
For pilots, they will need to compete with the salary scale and Ts&Cs for a line captain with airlines such as flybe or Eastern Airlines at the very least.
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For pilots, they will need to compete with the salary scale and Ts&Cs for a line captain with airlines such as flybe or Eastern Airlines at the very least.
By your argument, Flyby and Eastern would have to compete with BA and Virgin at the very least?
Bolleaux!
flybe and Eastern effectively define the basic market rate for twin turboprop aviation. There's no reason why some mercenary MFTS organisation should attempt to undercut that rate - or to offer lower Ts and Cs - just because they think that ex-military pilots will fall over themselves in a headlong rush to top up their pensions with a low salary.
In any case, they will have factored pilot salaries into their business model. If the civilian market picks up in a couple of years and MFTS are not offering a competitive package, they will very soon end up with no pilots at all.
Oh dear, what a pity, never mind.....
flybe and Eastern effectively define the basic market rate for twin turboprop aviation. There's no reason why some mercenary MFTS organisation should attempt to undercut that rate - or to offer lower Ts and Cs - just because they think that ex-military pilots will fall over themselves in a headlong rush to top up their pensions with a low salary.
In any case, they will have factored pilot salaries into their business model. If the civilian market picks up in a couple of years and MFTS are not offering a competitive package, they will very soon end up with no pilots at all.
Oh dear, what a pity, never mind.....
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Trouble is BEagle is that not everyone wants to strap an airliner to their backsides and go from A to B and back again 3 times a day without touching the controls! At least in the contracted mil jobs, you get to fly the a/c on a variety of different profiles with a different baby looker to beast each time.
variety is the spice of life! - its not all about salary! And I bet at Ascent, you won't have any Sh1t secondary duties!
WDD
variety is the spice of life! - its not all about salary! And I bet at Ascent, you won't have any Sh1t secondary duties!
WDD
just because they think that ex-military pilots will fall over themselves in a headlong rush to top up their pensions with a low salary.
And as WDD pointed out, there are horses for courses, and some ex-mil pilots may simply prefer to fly with Ascent within their comfort zone than go into civ flying with its own panoply of stresses and general crap.
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an established track record of putting up with endemic job insecurity, unsociable constantly changing rostas, constant bull**** from the beancounters etc.
Without biting to your obvious hook, i think there are many in the 2 Gp empire that would beg to differ with several of your comments above...
I hear that the Virgin "pilot holding pool" is starting to open and also a Kemble based operation is looking for KA pilots.
So I hope Ascent aren't relying on the recent state of the market ;-)
So I hope Ascent aren't relying on the recent state of the market ;-)