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Old 7th Jul 2010, 10:02
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Typhoon to the Stan

Morning all, just wondering if ever we will see the Typhoon in action in the stan.......... replacing the Tonka's ?

With all the kit on show in Kandahar everyday it would be great to see the Typhoon roaring down the tarmac
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Apparently we need two squadrons just to sustain QRA even though the Czechs were able to maintain QRA in two countries with 12 Gripens, go figure.
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In these financially challenging times, wouldn't it be cheaper to replace Tornados with Hawks? (assuming we had them)
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What about sending the Reds to distract them...

"A woman flying- infidels!".
"No, wait, Dirka Dirka, there is only 8 of them- she has food poisoning, or may be getting corporate hospitality elsewhere"...

Then have the BBMF Lanc finish them off. Imagine the sight of that coming along to bomb them. The Spitfire and Hurricane would be rather useful as well... We kinda won a war that way before didn't we?

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To be a useful CAS / Combat ISTAR platform one needs:

a. A radio that allows you to talk to anyone, securely.

b. A range of weapons / systems to provide a flexible and graduated response.

c. Platform maturity / reliability.

d. Enough hours allocated to become competent in the conduct of a. and b.

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....and an aircraft that is relatively cheap to deploy, requires only "field" conditions and not a mega logistics tail. Tell me, why did we take Harrier out of theatre? And don't say they needed to come out for crew reasons.
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...and an aircraft that is relatively cheap to deploy, requires only "field" conditions and not a mega logistics tail. Tell me, why did we take Harrier out of theatre? And don't say they needed to come out for crew reasons.
Coz it woz knackered?
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 21:52
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Checker,

Typhoon is exempt from operations in Afghanistan.

It is part of the "parallel" airforce, which includes PTI's and E3D's.

They do not work weekends* and, as such, are non-deployable.








(*except airshow participation and Vegas.)

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It'll all come down to ££££££££££££££££

Chopping flying pay should just about cover it .
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Originally Posted by rock34
It'll all come down to ££££££££££££££££

Chopping flying pay should just about cover it .
Or folding the rocks....... The EFI will just have to guard itself.
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Tell you what, if the politicians are to be believed and you'll all be out of Afghanistan by 2015, then I'd suggest you need not worry about Typhoon going, but that there are some massive defence cuts on the way in the next few years, and I wouldn't be surprised if the forces are scaled back to cover home defence...
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Old 8th Jul 2010, 10:20
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harrier back in

Rumour here is that Tonka's are being scrapped in the SDR and the harriers are going back into the stan to do the job until Uk pulls out
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Correct.

The politicians are not even being subtle about it.
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Tiffy would be the right tool for the job if Terry T had an air force.
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The Harrier's used in 'Stan' were rotated so the notion that they were 'knackered' is rubbish ! It would be the most sensible and cost effective move if they went back in this time of austerity and they are perfectly suited to the job.
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Pay me off and it gets my vote.

I'd love not to have to go back to Afghanistan again. Back onto thread, I just can't see typhoon going out there anytime soon (next 6 years).
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To be a useful CAS / Combat ISTAR platform one needs:

a. A radio that allows you to talk to anyone, securely.

b. A range of weapons / systems to provide a flexible and graduated response.

c. Platform maturity / reliability.

d. Enough hours allocated to become competent in the conduct of a. and b.

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We already have an aircraft in the Stan that does this and plenty more.........
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Absolutely, and a fair few more in Rutland, Norfolk and Moray, but the only ones fitting that bill at CGY have a nice red and white fin flash.

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AIUI there was more to it than

The Harrier's used in 'Stan' were rotated so the notion that they were 'knackered' is rubbish
Don't forget the "human" issues as well - JFH is not a big force and was not configured to maintain, within harmony, the AFG deployment (and thats across the board - groundcrew and aircrew). There was also concern, I believe, at the lack of proper deck time they were able to give the RN and on the basis of "use it or lose it" there was a very real risk of the carriers getting canned (and hence there were lots of guest nations on board HM's finest). No point having two big boats if you don't have the toys to put on them .....
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Tell you what, if the politicians are to be believed and you'll all be out of Afghanistan by 2015, then I'd suggest you need not worry about Typhoon going, but that there are some massive defence cuts on the way in the next few years, and I wouldn't be surprised if the forces are scaled back to cover home defence...

What tosh. The whole point of being in the 'Stan' is that what we are doing out there IS home defence. By wiping out AQ and its ability to home-grow terrorist cells capable of the July 7th London bombings in-situ is what home defence is all about - not launching an airshow jet to escort a Russian Bear away from the UK in the North Sea. If you think that CAS (ie Harrier only) ISTAR and RW platforms are going to be cutback in the SDSR in favour of defending British airspace and continuing to support the outrageously expensive white elephant that is the Typhoon then you are clearly something of a clown.
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