Wikiposts
Search
Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

Chinook blades

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 27th May 2010, 16:37
  #21 (permalink)  

Yes, Him
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: West Sussex, UK
Posts: 2,689
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Good Point PN, I do, bit of a diaphragm rattler is the beast. My dogs get restless shortly before even that!
Gainesy is offline  
Old 27th May 2010, 19:15
  #22 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: UK
Posts: 2,584
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
10nm warning.
Many moons ago (zzz) I had the privilege to fly the mighty BV234, and during training we were told that during some oil ops in Alaska/N Slope someone appeared at the heliport to meet a colleague inbound on one of the 234s. The unmistakable slap slap slap duly materilalised and our friend went outside into the minus 20deg cold to watch the arrival. After ten minutes or so the Ops bod got concerned and went out to tell the visitor, who was puzzled that the machine was not yet in sight, that they'd just called in their eta in 40 minutes time (ie nigh on 100 miles), and wouldn't he be more comfortable indoors?

My experience in more temperate climes was that the noise was very variable from arrival to arrival, and seemed to be related to small changes of wind direction or a/c heading - ie the loud stuff seemed very directional. At certain power settings (suspect in cruise-speed descent) the cannon-fire slap was very evident, though the Bell 214ST was capable of just as much, if not more in certain regimes of descent.
Again, huge broad blades slapping thru the vortices.

But Chinooks not audible seconds away? Hmm.

Around this part of the world they are clearly audible about five times earlier than the Apaches, Merlins and occasional Sea Kings that follow the ridgeline I live on.

Bless'em!
Agaricus bisporus is offline  
Old 27th May 2010, 19:52
  #23 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: in the mess
Posts: 195
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The cab may have been amazingly well rotor-tuned (unlikely - it's difficult to achieve), or could have been flying a little more slowly than the others you have heard, which quietens things down, but only a little. Poor viz, or a concealed approach may have meant the cab was being flown nearer to 80 knots rather than the more usual 120-135 knot cruise. Pure speculation, of course. If the route they were taking was to the south of you, the northerly drift would also affect the noise levels, as has already been suggested.
nice castle is offline  
Old 27th May 2010, 20:31
  #24 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Temporarily missing from the Joe Louis Arena
Posts: 2,131
Received 27 Likes on 16 Posts
Apparenty Odious F&L are adding anti-knock to the F34.

They dare not add too much though in case the crews start to think they are chubby Benson mates flying quiet lttle plastic pigs, which would result in them ordering extra rats and more importantly, turning down any serials that require more than a Brigadier and his best chum from being lifted to a garden party.
The Helpful Stacker is offline  
Old 28th May 2010, 08:24
  #25 (permalink)  

Yes, Him
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: West Sussex, UK
Posts: 2,689
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Anyway, the Kamov Ka-26 and its derivatives beat the Chinook it into a cocked hat in the noise stakes. Replacement windows anyone?

As for noise complaints about the Wokkas around here, I point the locals at Middle Wallop.

Joking apart, most folk have seen the news footage of CasEvacs and accept the need to train low at night. Some of them also think that if the local HEMS is busy, the Wokkas/SAR Sea Kings will come to get 'em instead.
Gainesy is offline  
Old 28th May 2010, 11:35
  #26 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: just left of a valley,dorsetestishireland
Age: 58
Posts: 110
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Theres some interesting replies coming in about Chinook blade slap noise. It will be almost impossible for me (who started this thread) to dispose of any reply v my hearing.

I accept my limited knowledge in this field will seem trivial to most, but as Razor61 and I regularly get overflown by Chinooks, our hearing has become tuned into the sound/frequency/decibel etc. The last 2 months i just find myself thinking, the Chinooks sound very quiet compared to before. And thats with 2 months of Chinook traffic at mostly low level and running in from the west and east in very differing weather conditions day and night.

They just sound different somehow!! Never mind..everyone, have a spiffing day and i thank you for your interest.

Coley
coley chaos is offline  
Old 28th May 2010, 11:47
  #27 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,051
Received 2,920 Likes on 1,249 Posts
I remember when we got the first one and our exchange Auzzie pilot D**** W****x was on the ops desk when the phone rang from some discruntled farmer complaining that our new helicopter was scaring his horses/cows/sheep/old lady and he replied to him.... "well they better get used to it soon as there are another 30 odd on the way and they are going to be around for the next 30 to 40 years"....
NutLoose is online now  
Old 1st Jun 2010, 18:21
  #28 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: At home
Posts: 1,232
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Wooka Wookas, Wokka Wokkas or Bop Bops?

My younger son's first word for anything that flew was 'Bop Bop', thanks to the Chinooks passing over.

Have you actually seen them? Do you know they are Chinooks? Merlins are just as loud but with about 10sec rather than 10nm warning.
If you lived under their flightpath you would soon know which are Chinooks and which aren't, long before you see them.

We do get the occasional one which doesn't sound right though. It's as if one blade is at a different pitch or something.

I love seeing them, but some saddo in our estate notes down the time and direction of each one and regales it all at the residents association meeting each year. Some people should get a life!
Mechta is offline  
Old 1st Jun 2010, 19:00
  #29 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: wherever will have me
Posts: 748
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Mechta, that's the blade tape coming off. MGD or one of the others can explain better what blade tape does!
whowhenwhy is offline  
Old 1st Jun 2010, 19:59
  #30 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Where the wild things are
Age: 52
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My 4 1/2 year old daughter can clock a Chinook from over the horizon thanks to her excellent hearing and even if she can't see it coming she'll let me know so I can look in the directions she's not looking in to make sure she doesn't miss it.
She managed to upset a member of Chinook crew at the Leuchars airshow a couple of years ago by telling him "Its not a pretty helicopter, its a Chinook" much to his consternation, especially when he found that she was only 2 1/2 at the time! My daughter the spotter
LBP PC DC is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.