What is it like to fly a Jet Fighter?
.....the nurse with varicose veins.....
AH gyro acceleration errors - it's a QFI thing!
Now listen to me soddim.
At my age mate it's easy. No need to look at the fireplace whilst stoking the fire.
Time: 1966
Place: bar at FTS RAF Acklington, Northumberland
Situation: me beering with personal flying instructor (ex fighter pilot):
"Let me give you a good piece of advice for the future son. Never ever turn down a shag"
Best advice I've ever had.
Mind you, got a lot of flak sometimes but b********cks, I'm still alive and kicking.
You getting the general idea FlareAngel?
Beags,
I think we had better keep that sort of stuff to ourselves mate!
Well, the mind boggles that nowadays a fighter pilot could face the challenge of a female QFI with varicose veins!
Time: 1966
Place: bar at FTS RAF Acklington, Northumberland
Situation: me beering with personal flying instructor (ex fighter pilot):
"Let me give you a good piece of advice for the future son. Never ever turn down a shag"
Best advice I've ever had.
Mind you, got a lot of flak sometimes but b********cks, I'm still alive and kicking.
You getting the general idea FlareAngel?
Beags,
AH gyro acceleration errors - it's a QFI thing
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LM, you're a proper gent an no mistake!
Was the sage QFI one JE?
Soddim. Would much appreciate. Can you pm, or do you have my email?
Al Voodoo I assume. Also had a hell of a rep when in conjunction with K McR.
Was the sage QFI one JE?
Soddim. Would much appreciate. Can you pm, or do you have my email?
Al Voodoo I assume. Also had a hell of a rep when in conjunction with K McR.
WHAT? That F-4 has mud-moving appendages - how very distasteful and working class!
Fortunately during my F-4 time, the WIWOGA people were few and far between and all the rusty GA crap on the centre pedestal was deemed 'look, don't touch'!
We were AD only....Coolant ON, Tone as required, CW ON, Interlocks OUT, MSL Sparrow, Master Arm ARM.... Or something like that...
The pendulous vanes were supposed to apply precessive forces to an air driven gyro.....bugger it, I got my A2 at the first attempt, so anyone else can darn well work it out for themsleves!
Fortunately during my F-4 time, the WIWOGA people were few and far between and all the rusty GA crap on the centre pedestal was deemed 'look, don't touch'!
We were AD only....Coolant ON, Tone as required, CW ON, Interlocks OUT, MSL Sparrow, Master Arm ARM.... Or something like that...
The pendulous vanes were supposed to apply precessive forces to an air driven gyro.....bugger it, I got my A2 at the first attempt, so anyone else can darn well work it out for themsleves!
Nice to see an F4 correctly attired with CBLS and SUU23. The only better fit was SNEB. This must be a later 'A' as the original 6 Sqn A was XV 400.
But back to the thread, the F4 was not an aircraft that endeared itself to the crew because of it's excellent handling, but rather as an aircraft that could take a pounding and so was a good wargoer. Seem to remember that it was quite physical requiring a lot of muscle to manoeuvre, and using rudder to roll was alien at first. However, rudder use soon became second nature, and rumour has it that the 43 Sqn QFI (one JA) when asked to give a squadron brief on high AOA handling, before a combat phase, stood up and said: "When it buffets use your boots", and then sat down. I suppose the abiding memories of the Toom were noise (our aircraft had a continual whine from mismatched electronics), sweat and fun. I am sure that the other mudmovers have similar memories.
But back to the thread, the F4 was not an aircraft that endeared itself to the crew because of it's excellent handling, but rather as an aircraft that could take a pounding and so was a good wargoer. Seem to remember that it was quite physical requiring a lot of muscle to manoeuvre, and using rudder to roll was alien at first. However, rudder use soon became second nature, and rumour has it that the 43 Sqn QFI (one JA) when asked to give a squadron brief on high AOA handling, before a combat phase, stood up and said: "When it buffets use your boots", and then sat down. I suppose the abiding memories of the Toom were noise (our aircraft had a continual whine from mismatched electronics), sweat and fun. I am sure that the other mudmovers have similar memories.
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in answer to the OP, I guess these two characters would agree its the most fun you can have fully clothed
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BEagle, you don't know what you missed. The multi-role days at the beginning of the RAF operational F4 period were without doubt the best. In its' time the F4 must have been the most capable multi-role fighter ever produced and training to meet that challenge was most satisfying.
Whilst one would not pretend that it was easy to master Recce, GA and AD it was well worthwhile trying as was proved in Cyprus in '74 when the required task changed as often as the surface wind.
Small air forces need flexibility and the F4 certainly provided the means - provided, of course, that the crews were up to it.
Thereby was the challenge and the satisfaction.
Whilst one would not pretend that it was easy to master Recce, GA and AD it was well worthwhile trying as was proved in Cyprus in '74 when the required task changed as often as the surface wind.
Small air forces need flexibility and the F4 certainly provided the means - provided, of course, that the crews were up to it.
Thereby was the challenge and the satisfaction.
Morning all.
This has become a great thread innit!
I suppose I'd better keep quiet about my 1850 hours on Jaguars and ejection then......
This has become a great thread innit!
WHAT? That F-4 has mud-moving appendages - how very distasteful and working class!
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Surely the best quote of all times concerning the Lightning was attributed to John Howe, the first CO of 74, the first Lightning Sqn. Remember, there were no 2 seaters at this time, your first trip was your first solo:--
"I was with it all the way until I let the brakes off"
"I was with it all the way until I let the brakes off"
Don't think much of yours ...
Hello McDuff.
Love the pic mate.
Don't like yours much though......is the third from the left sitting on the stick?
Wanna beer?
Love the pic mate.
Don't like yours much though......is the third from the left sitting on the stick?
Wanna beer?
The one on my lap probably has her back to the sidestick controller (if that's the stick you mean ...); she was the nicest one, smiling all the while, whereas all the others looked glum for the whole time unless the camera was on them.
The girl in the cockpit was called Irene
Ready for a beer any time, but you're miles away from Cambs.
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Pendulous vanes ...
@ BEagle
Odd that I, who never even approached the boundary fence of the Centralised School of Telling People How to Fly still has a vivid mind-picture of the air-driven gyro and its pendulosities,- s it ain't a CFI thing by any means ... But weren't we modern on Venom 1s with our "Electrical Erectors" ... Zero pendulosity there (not then at least).
Back to thread pur-leeze !
Odd that I, who never even approached the boundary fence of the Centralised School of Telling People How to Fly still has a vivid mind-picture of the air-driven gyro and its pendulosities,- s it ain't a CFI thing by any means ... But weren't we modern on Venom 1s with our "Electrical Erectors" ... Zero pendulosity there (not then at least).
Back to thread pur-leeze !
McDuff,
Corse I know it's got a sidestick (schhh...I've flown it)
'nuff said then.....
I've gone a bit further than that - flown four girls in a Jaguar
(not all at the same time). Married one of them.
Not that far mate.
The one on my lap probably has her back to the sidestick controller (if that's the stick you mean ...); she was the nicest one, smiling all the while,
The girl in the cockpit was called Irene
I've gone a bit further than that - flown four girls in a Jaguar
(not all at the same time). Married one of them.
Ready for a beer any time, but you're miles away from Cambs.