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Old 18th Apr 2010, 17:58
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Two light aircraft overflew my house in WSM yesterday. Thought nothing of it at first then did a mental shift as I thought the no fly order applied to everyone except emergency aircraft. Are such flights as I witnessed allowed?
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Old 18th Apr 2010, 18:10
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Yep. It is only Controlled airspace which is closed.
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Old 18th Apr 2010, 18:15
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Unless it's changed since Friday NATS had only closed controlled airspace - there was never a no-fly order as such. Several of my company's a/c flew international trips on Thu and Fri with insurer and Eurocontrol approval, albeit away from the dust.
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Old 18th Apr 2010, 19:40
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Drove up M40 yesterday as was weird seeing no contrails or any aircraft.

Gliders were out though and quite a lot of them as well.
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Old 18th Apr 2010, 21:11
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So, have the airbridges to Afghan & MPA been suspended?
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Old 19th Apr 2010, 07:45
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Airbridges to Afghan and Falklands suspended (on Friday there were 4 aircraft stuck in the system - 2 at Akrotiri)

Casualties to be evacuated to unaffected coalition nations

SAR, QRA, and emergency flights unaffected.
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Old 19th Apr 2010, 10:42
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Sulphur smell at 4,500ft - 6000ft

We were flying out of Dunkeswell at the weekend and skydiving, ceiling was restricted to 10,000ft from cardiff. At 4,500-6000ft we had a very strong sulphurous burning type smell through out the aircraft (a caravan) but other than that nothing below or above other than a very empty sky bar two micro lights hedge jumping.

I am wondering how this is affecting the Air Bridge?
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Old 19th Apr 2010, 16:02
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I hope this is sorted out soon, otherwise there will be a shortage of salad to go with the BBQ in ASI!!

Seriously, I hope the Afghan airbridge/seabridge is sorted out PDQ. Thoughts go out to those returning from their tour. Heard a rumour that wounded can/may go to the US, if necessary; not sure how true that is.
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Old 19th Apr 2010, 16:58
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My son who lives in Copenhagen flew to San Diego on Thursday on the last US-bound flight out of Kastrup, and today flew back into Oslo on the first SAS flight back to Scandinavia, and SAS are bussing them from Oslo to CPH - latest text is from somewhere in SW Sweden!
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Old 19th Apr 2010, 17:37
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We were flying out of Dunkeswell at the weekend and skydiving, ceiling was restricted to 10,000ft from cardiff. At 4,500-6000ft we had a very strong sulphurous burning type smell through out the aircraft
ISTR a similar smell in the back of Albert at about the time we got the instruction to stand up, hook up and prepare for equipment check. We only jumped from 800 AGL however
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Old 19th Apr 2010, 23:32
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Yup - I was one of them, great views of the remains of Cherwell Valley services but overall the visibility was probably the worst I've ever known and I swear I could smell hints of sulphur in the air at between 5,000 and 6,000 ft local QFE.
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Old 20th Apr 2010, 07:51
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Still an interesting question as to who precisely in the MOD makes the decision that MOD regulated aircraft simply follow decrees made by NATS. Air Command have no juristiction (as far as i am aware) over Army and Navy flying, yet they all seem to be grounded as well. I cannot believe that the RAF/Navy ATC community hold a similar level of sway over operational matters that NATS appear to have in the civvy world.

Maybe it's an edict from our newly formed MAA, but given the provenance of that organisation I suspect they would simply slopey shoulder responsibility back to the Commands.
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Old 20th Apr 2010, 09:01
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@ Chris.

From what I was told, the decision was made by an RAF bod who chairs a joint service cttee of some sorts.
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Old 20th Apr 2010, 17:57
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Some RAF bods and some sort of committee

Although it's difficult to improve on Monkey Madness's eloquent post are there some clues here?
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Old 20th Apr 2010, 18:08
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French Air Force is flying - Herc just went over our house in the S Vendee at about 200 ft (or 66m)
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Old 20th Apr 2010, 20:14
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At least one Merlin took to the skies over S Oxfordshire today.
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Old 20th Apr 2010, 20:19
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With the latest news that ALL UK airports opening at 2200 BST today will the mil be flying tomorrow too...
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Old 20th Apr 2010, 20:31
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as Mil flying today. But I imagine that all the restrictions have now gone
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Old 20th Apr 2010, 22:37
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Hi new poster here.

Does anyone know what the chances are the RAF will start flights back up again.I know the JMC was cancelled and there is alot of traffic still stuck at bases.

Now with the ban lifted will they start to move with-in the UK airspace.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 21st Apr 2010, 08:06
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@ Leopold



Some RAF bods and some sort of committee
Although it's difficult to improve on Monkey Madness's eloquent post are there some clues here?
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Fair one, I deserved that.

The signal we received was signed COS ATM. Though interestingly our SATCO had a visit from an MAA bod who knew nothing about the decision.
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