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You sir should go and hang your pedant head in shame...
There are times to say what you think and there are times to think what you want to say... you got this one wrong vvc
You sir should go and hang your pedant head in shame...
There are times to say what you think and there are times to think what you want to say... you got this one wrong vvc
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I disagree.... and I'll repeat what I said on 8th February.
I think that the MERT are doing a very valuable and honest job. Without their courage and skill we may have lost many more of our brave servicemen and so what ever you believe, the girls and guys of MERT get my vote everyday.
Now if you don't think that the MERT are doing a good job then that's your opinion but I do hope that you never have any need for their fine service.
I think that the MERT are doing a very valuable and honest job. Without their courage and skill we may have lost many more of our brave servicemen and so what ever you believe, the girls and guys of MERT get my vote everyday.
Now if you don't think that the MERT are doing a good job then that's your opinion but I do hope that you never have any need for their fine service.
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VVC you have not retracted your infantile and ill considered remarks on "correct" helmet wearing nor your "prat" label for Fiona. We have all got the message that you like the MERT, but that is not the issue.
I can only hope that the criticism comments were a very poor attempt at humour, but seeing your track record of postings on this site, I doubt it
I can only hope that the criticism comments were a very poor attempt at humour, but seeing your track record of postings on this site, I doubt it
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I echo the above sentiments from ROG.
VVC, you are coming across as an utter k
b on this thread. I suggest you summon the decency to bite the bullet and retract your unwelcome, incorrect and exceptionally rude comment.
VVC, you are coming across as an utter k
b on this thread. I suggest you summon the decency to bite the bullet and retract your unwelcome, incorrect and exceptionally rude comment.
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I can see
RAF Chinook -not yours
Army Lynx -not yours
USAF Pavehawk -not yours
Do you fly in one of those old stealth helicopters that are always parked in the hangar?
Time and time again you come on here and spout your ignorance of things you don't have a real grip of. Have a break and stick to what you know.
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Fantastic MERTs
Thank you for posting this thread, it really does bring it home just how good our military are. Mind you, since they are all the lickspittle puppies of the Great Satan America, the infidels - especially the women - are probably all doomed to extinction by an angry God. Just look at the ungodly way they pick up the suffering - not even their own suffering either. They are so against the teachings of Allah, that they even defile the bodies of the Great and Merciful Taleban with their medicine.
Why can the people of Afghanistan not see, that when the Taleban have finished killing your men, women and children in the street, for no other reason than they got in the way of killing infidels, they will reign with religious fervour which - they say - is alway merciful? They can offer you ............................. nothing, except death as a one stop shopping sanction for any indiscretion in the opinion of anyone wearing a beard and a stupid, pork pie shaped hat and institutionalised oppression and violence to women.
What use is a Taleban - they are like wasps. Useless and dangerous.
I'll get my coat - I get a bit carried away.
Roger.
Why can the people of Afghanistan not see, that when the Taleban have finished killing your men, women and children in the street, for no other reason than they got in the way of killing infidels, they will reign with religious fervour which - they say - is alway merciful? They can offer you ............................. nothing, except death as a one stop shopping sanction for any indiscretion in the opinion of anyone wearing a beard and a stupid, pork pie shaped hat and institutionalised oppression and violence to women.
What use is a Taleban - they are like wasps. Useless and dangerous.
I'll get my coat - I get a bit carried away.
Roger.
Maybe this is a time that a certain ex RAF medical officer, should look to his conscience about his decision not to got to war. This is the reality of his decision, others at the time stepped into the gap he so disgracefully left by his decision and I believe cowardice in refusing to be deployed.
In the words of Flt Lt Fiona McGlynn "But the best service we provide is morale. The troops on the ground know no matter where they are, we will fly in and do everything we can to ensure they get home to their families in the best possible condition."
Bravery of the teams and all concerned of the highest order, and in in the true traditions of medical services in time of war. for those who have not, try John Nicholls and Tony Rendells book 'Medic' To think some on here criticised how she was wearing her helmet, shame on them.
Air pig
In the words of Flt Lt Fiona McGlynn "But the best service we provide is morale. The troops on the ground know no matter where they are, we will fly in and do everything we can to ensure they get home to their families in the best possible condition."
Bravery of the teams and all concerned of the highest order, and in in the true traditions of medical services in time of war. for those who have not, try John Nicholls and Tony Rendells book 'Medic' To think some on here criticised how she was wearing her helmet, shame on them.
Air pig
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To think some on here criticised how she was wearing her helmet, shame on them.
Just bringing it back to the top, so vecvechookattack has the opportunity to apologise.
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FWIW.
I've done MERT as an Emergency Nurse in Helmand and I know Fiona well as a friend and colleague.
In the photo it does look like Fiona's helmet is unstrapped but that is a snapshot in time. Vecvechookattack, we all appreciate the safety implications but you weren't there and not knowing the circumstances it's unfair to criticise those helping others without having all the facts.
You have to shout to be heard (or as I did become adept at sign language) and you have to occasionally pull your flying helmet to one side to hear your team. I occasionally had to unplug and come off comms to move around the cab and do my job. Was that wrong too?
Being on 'headset' you are the link between the aircrew and the rest of the MERT. You quite often are privy to comms that you'd rather not hear (and I don't just mean the usual aircrew banter) and it certainly heightens your senses. The rest of the MERT look to you for SA and when things are very hot you try not to look overtly concerned.
As for the job. Working in a well-lit, well-manned, stable A&E department is one thing. Delivering emergency care in a rapidly manoeuvering, noisy and cramped environment, sometimes to several casualties at once, can be a huge challenge. Performing basic care or intricate clinical procedures at night, without the benefit of light, further exacerbates the difficulties and requires great understanding between the team.
The job is clinically, emotionally and physically demanding and by far the hardest thing I've ever had to do. We readily fly into the heart of the battle with little thought for our own safety whatever the time day or night.
The MERT is a team effort. The CH47 and AH crews are awesome. The medical people I work with are selfless, consumate professionals and of the highest order. The QRF that often assist us in situations are top blokes.
I am immensely proud to have put myself on the line for our guys and girls 'on the ground' and I know this is a sentiment shared by the MERT.
Vecvechookattack, give the girl a bit of slack eh? We are all on the same side I think.
Nec Aspera Terrant.
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air pig, I kept a diary during my tour which may make interesting reading...
I've done MERT as an Emergency Nurse in Helmand and I know Fiona well as a friend and colleague.
In the photo it does look like Fiona's helmet is unstrapped but that is a snapshot in time. Vecvechookattack, we all appreciate the safety implications but you weren't there and not knowing the circumstances it's unfair to criticise those helping others without having all the facts.
You have to shout to be heard (or as I did become adept at sign language) and you have to occasionally pull your flying helmet to one side to hear your team. I occasionally had to unplug and come off comms to move around the cab and do my job. Was that wrong too?
Being on 'headset' you are the link between the aircrew and the rest of the MERT. You quite often are privy to comms that you'd rather not hear (and I don't just mean the usual aircrew banter) and it certainly heightens your senses. The rest of the MERT look to you for SA and when things are very hot you try not to look overtly concerned.
As for the job. Working in a well-lit, well-manned, stable A&E department is one thing. Delivering emergency care in a rapidly manoeuvering, noisy and cramped environment, sometimes to several casualties at once, can be a huge challenge. Performing basic care or intricate clinical procedures at night, without the benefit of light, further exacerbates the difficulties and requires great understanding between the team.
The job is clinically, emotionally and physically demanding and by far the hardest thing I've ever had to do. We readily fly into the heart of the battle with little thought for our own safety whatever the time day or night.
The MERT is a team effort. The CH47 and AH crews are awesome. The medical people I work with are selfless, consumate professionals and of the highest order. The QRF that often assist us in situations are top blokes.
I am immensely proud to have put myself on the line for our guys and girls 'on the ground' and I know this is a sentiment shared by the MERT.
Vecvechookattack, give the girl a bit of slack eh? We are all on the same side I think.
Nec Aspera Terrant.
manxcat
Maybe one day someone will write their story, as Mark Hammond did from the front end view.
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"Maybe one day someone will write their story"
Air Pig, I always hesitate to join the fray on these pages, but I thought thought you might like to know that someone (Me & Tony Rennell) has done just that as part of our book:
"Medic - Saving Lives From Dunkirk To Afghanistan"
Medic: Saving Lives - from Dunkirk to Afghanistan: Amazon.co.uk: John Nichol, Tony Rennell, Eleo Gordon: Books
A discussion about in on ARRSE:
Army Rumour Service > > Forums > > Boards by Arm / Service (roughly) > > Professionally Qualified, RAMC and QARANC > > MEDIC - saving lives from Dunkirk to Afghanistan
Air Pig, I always hesitate to join the fray on these pages, but I thought thought you might like to know that someone (Me & Tony Rennell) has done just that as part of our book:
"Medic - Saving Lives From Dunkirk To Afghanistan"
Medic: Saving Lives - from Dunkirk to Afghanistan: Amazon.co.uk: John Nichol, Tony Rennell, Eleo Gordon: Books
A discussion about in on ARRSE:
Army Rumour Service > > Forums > > Boards by Arm / Service (roughly) > > Professionally Qualified, RAMC and QARANC > > MEDIC - saving lives from Dunkirk to Afghanistan
John, I am part the way through your book, absolutely amazing read, dusty room syndrome at times, and to Manx Cat, to you and the others, thanks for all you do. Your diary would make interesting reading. The stories you have to tell and the tragedies and triumphs, cannot be told too often, to bring the awareness to others of the trials and tribulations of what is going on in the big sandpit.
To an other on here, I do wish the individual would read the above post from Manx cat and send his/her apology to the team and in particular Fiona for the comments made. I am sure if they are made here they would get back to her, but, I am sure, IF and its a big IF they know where she is at the moment a bunch of flowers would be better as an apology.
Regards to all and stay safe
Air pig.
To an other on here, I do wish the individual would read the above post from Manx cat and send his/her apology to the team and in particular Fiona for the comments made. I am sure if they are made here they would get back to her, but, I am sure, IF and its a big IF they know where she is at the moment a bunch of flowers would be better as an apology.
Regards to all and stay safe
Air pig.
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To all those who have PM'd me. Many Many thanks.
the wheels of commerce turn ( slowly admittedly ) but I have got the damn things turning. Let me once again reiterate that all names and numbers will be in the strictest of confidence but if those of you who have stitched a mate up
and passed me their details could forewarn them to expect a thick cornishman on the phone/writing a letter etc.
the basic plot is I plan to send as many goodies as the company I work for will let me get away with to a ****hole sandy place. if I have to cheat, break rules and bribe people I will.
I will report when there is more news - but now I will go back to staring out of the window at the beautiful flying day outside
the wheels of commerce turn ( slowly admittedly ) but I have got the damn things turning. Let me once again reiterate that all names and numbers will be in the strictest of confidence but if those of you who have stitched a mate up
and passed me their details could forewarn them to expect a thick cornishman on the phone/writing a letter etc.the basic plot is I plan to send as many goodies as the company I work for will let me get away with to a ****hole sandy place. if I have to cheat, break rules and bribe people I will.
I will report when there is more news - but now I will go back to staring out of the window at the beautiful flying day outside
Bumpity, so that some may have more time to apologise for their crass comments
Thanks to ROG for his/her PM, maybe vecvec may just may apologise for their comments, but not holding my breath.
Air pig
Air pig