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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 03:02
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US Air Force Zoomies At It Again!

The USAF Academy has set aside a Prayer Space/Worship Space/Ritual Sacrifice Space or whatever the hell you would call it.....for Witches,Wiccans, Pagan's, and Druids to practice their unique beliefs.

Honest....I am not making this up! So much for God, Country, and Mom's Apple Pie!

Don't count on the US Naval Academy or the Military Academy to follow suit. Somehow I cannot see a US Marine getting involved in this kind of stuff!

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So? Its only as ridiculous as having a chapel or any other kind of worship of an imaginary best friend...
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IIRC the RN set aside half a paint locker for some bloke who hsd the bright idea of becoming a Devil worshipper a few years back. Don't think it lasted long.
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It's on a par with getting "Jedi" as an officially acknowledged religion by writing it in on the census form. I'm with D.O Guerrero on this..gratification for delusionals, all of it.
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Somehow I cannot see a US Marine getting involved in this kind of stuff!
I dunno. One Marine had Christmas canceled at the family service center on the base I was stationed at. Objected to Santa showing up at a Christmas party for the little ones that attended day care there. Instead of pulling his kid for the day, he pitched a big enough bitch to the Commanding General and his COS that they canceled the party. It offended his Muslim beliefs he said.
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I was based with the U.S. Marines on their Horn of Africa base for the holidays a few years ago. On December 21st the chapel had a pagan service for the solstice. The pagans invited everyone to attend, just requested that visitors attend with respect for their religion. I almost wish I had gone.
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Its no wonder the Moslem world thinks Westerners a bunch of decadent Godless heathens when we condone that kind of rubbish, especially in our military.
Not the sort of behaviour to impress Somalis really, not that they were very impressed beforehand, but that was a different story.

"The holidays." Is this a euphemism for Christmas?
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Westie,

Good thing I wasn't his CO.....would have told him to attend or sit out....his choice....but would also say the same thing to others that did not wish to observe Ramadan or similar Muslim events.

It is Freedom of Religion ....not freedom from religion!

Sounds like the PC bull**** has gotten its hooks into the military way...way too far!
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Sadly, before the (*** commissioned!) Fort Hood gunman did this 'thing', (and quite possibly still today), that Marine CO's career would have gone down the gurgler on the PC Express if he'd stood up to that lone Muslim marine who insisted on cancelling the Christmas party - and both he and the Muslim marine knew it.

One day, our grandchildren (at least those of them that aren't banging their heads on a mat with their arses pointing away from from the Kalba stone) will ask us what were we thinking allowing Political Correctness, especially towards Muslims, to proceed (regress!) as far as it has today.
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I'm with SASless on this one.

Anyone with the sort of intolerance displayed by the f*cker who cancelled Christmas is unfit to serve in a military that prides itself in defending (religious) freedom worldwide.
Tolerance and respect are two way streets..or should be anyway.

People with an axe to grind will always find something to "offend" their sensibilities. How far do we as societies want to go in placating them?

Good on the pagans for inviting everybody as long as they attend respectfuly. At least they seem to grasp the concept of freedom and respect.
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Religion is a faith, not a fact.
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I've known a few adherents to what is known as Wicca (they seem to gravitate to areas such as Cornwall). They can be summed up as well-meaning, slightly eccentric people with a possibly misguided faith in natural medicines and herbs and a general desire to live with, as opposed to against nature. No broomsticks, no curses and certainly no devil-worship. As far as I know no Wiccans have ever blown themselves up in a crowd or led a crusade to the Holy Lands against unbelievers. Nor are they known for buggering young boys in their care.

If this is delusional rubbish, I'm all for it.
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S76Heavy,

"a military that prides itself in defending (religious) freedom worldwide."

Oh boy, do you need to revisit your history lessons!

Most inaccurate clap trap I have read for a LONG time.

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Prove it! How is it not a deluded cult?
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"The holidays." Is this a euphemism for Christmas?
I think you will find the word is derived from the phrase "Holy Days".

Not that it means anything to me except that I can get some skiing in. I get my uplifting services from the great lord Poma.
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pr00ne

having lived for years in a country libeated by the Allies in 1944-1945 from brutal occupation, having numerous friends and family members in the armed forces who have served and still serve in conflict areas where the US military plays a big part, I feel I am entitled to my opinion.

I am also aware of more cynical decisions reagrding the choices of battlegrounds and conflicts, like oil and supremacy.

However, how can any military that purports to liberate people from oppression (remember the toppling of the statue in Baghdad?) condone the suppression of inhouse cultural if not religious festivities by another member of those armed forces, with a claim of religious sensitivities being offended?
What about just staying away from Santa Claus if it does not suit your beliefs, rather than spoiling it for everybody?

Double standards at least.
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Hi Westie!

Don't the USMC (allegedly) have 'internal disciplinary methods' to ensure that no Marine causes trouble in this way?

'Code Red'? Or was that just a Hollywood thing?
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Pr00ne,

Having said I think religion is a faith not a fact, you said,

"aviate,

Prove it! How is it not a deluded cult?"

I don't think there is much difference, if any, between deluded cults and religions. The proof should come from the religions/cults.

Dict: "belief that is not based on proof:"

Bit like Global Warmists!
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Beagle.....for craps sake....ignore Hollywood's view of the Military please?




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From the Halls of Montezuma
To the shores of Tripoli
We fight our country's battles
In the air, on land, and sea;
First to fight for right and freedom
And to keep our honor clean;
We are proud to claim the title
Of United States Marine.


Our flag's unfurled to every breeze
From dawn to setting sun;
We have fought in every clime and place
Where we could take a gun.
In the snow of far-off Northern lands
And in sunny tropic scenes;
You will find us always on the job --
The United States Marines.


Here's health to you and to our Corps
Which we are proud to serve;
In many a strife we've fought for life
And never lost our nerve.
If the Army and the Navy
Ever look on Heaven's scenes,
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Tankertrash, a very good post sir - says it all in a relative nutshell
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aviate1138,

My apologies, I think I rather hastily grasped at the wrong end of the stick.....

S76Heavy,

Good point, particularly your last paragraph
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