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To clear up any confusion from my last post: the C130J is 'taking on the role' of SAR in the Falklands when it takes over down there from the C130K which, of course, has been doing SAR for many years.
Despite what Bob Ainsworth said in the House of Commons about C130s doing SAR once the Nimrod's grounded neither the J or the K will be holding SAR standby in the UK, according to 2Gp.
Hope that clarifies things.
Despite what Bob Ainsworth said in the House of Commons about C130s doing SAR once the Nimrod's grounded neither the J or the K will be holding SAR standby in the UK, according to 2Gp.
Hope that clarifies things.
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Well 2Gp had C130's on standby during the periods when Nimrods were grounded... So I dont see why they wont do it again for preservation of SAR Helo crews if nothing else.
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Hoots,
It seems that the MOD/RAF listened; a report is now on the the MOD website.
Well, it was. Unfortunately, another death in Afghan has (rightly) bumped the story.
Duncs
It seems that the MOD/RAF listened; a report is now on the the MOD website.
Well, it was. Unfortunately, another death in Afghan has (rightly) bumped the story.
Duncs
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And there's some footage of the rescue here:
Ministry of Defence | Video | VIDEO: Navy Sea King and RAF Nimrod rescue injured fisherman
Duncs
Ministry of Defence | Video | VIDEO: Navy Sea King and RAF Nimrod rescue injured fisherman
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Quite a good news article from the MOD, shame it appears to have needed prompting. Was it Kinloss, the RAF or the MOD who didn't capitalise on it sooner?
BZ to the Seaking Crew that looked tricky, hope the Nimrod Crew de-brief wasn't too painful
(fancy being on the wrong side of the helo for the money shot).
Nice to see maritimes finest Squadron mentioned too, Hic Et Ubique
BZ to the Seaking Crew that looked tricky, hope the Nimrod Crew de-brief wasn't too painful
(fancy being on the wrong side of the helo for the money shot). Nice to see maritimes finest Squadron mentioned too, Hic Et Ubique
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Well on a positive note its the intention to have the MRA4 ready to take back the SAR responsabilities as soon as possible. Its all on the powers above and money but certainly wont be down to people not trying to get the aircraft into service. We are being asked a very difficult task with very little resources at present but getting the aircraft to operate safely from a groundcrew point of view will not be an issue and it will be done from us that I have no doubt.
Its all going to be dependent on the aircrew and there training.
Its all going to be dependent on the aircrew and there training.
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Slightly off topic-
Any Ppruners know what the disposal plans are for the MR2s? Which ones will go to which museums (some abroad hopefully?), which are for sale/how much and which will just be turned into coke cans
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How does it work, do the RAF contact those they want to take them, advertise widely that they are available or wait until it's too late and only the scrap man can move them?
Have the peeps at Bruntingthorpe been approached or shown any interest? Their Cold War collection wouldn't be complete without probably our most utilised Cold War aircraft. Surely it would be ideal as folk could be shown inside it too, always very popular at airshows with a massive queue (when we were allowed to open it up!), the tour lasted about 20 to 30mins, if we had two sets of steps it was easy to keep people flowing through. Maybe a couple of quid at the door on open days, always though it could have been a nice little earner.
After 40 years of hard service to the country it would be nice to see as many as possible get a worthy resting place. The next lot of MPA won't be available for another 40 years or more hopefully.
Any Ppruners know what the disposal plans are for the MR2s? Which ones will go to which museums (some abroad hopefully?), which are for sale/how much and which will just be turned into coke cans
? How does it work, do the RAF contact those they want to take them, advertise widely that they are available or wait until it's too late and only the scrap man can move them?
Have the peeps at Bruntingthorpe been approached or shown any interest? Their Cold War collection wouldn't be complete without probably our most utilised Cold War aircraft. Surely it would be ideal as folk could be shown inside it too, always very popular at airshows with a massive queue (when we were allowed to open it up!), the tour lasted about 20 to 30mins, if we had two sets of steps it was easy to keep people flowing through. Maybe a couple of quid at the door on open days, always though it could have been a nice little earner.
After 40 years of hard service to the country it would be nice to see as many as possible get a worthy resting place. The next lot of MPA won't be available for another 40 years or more hopefully.
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From what I can gather, 7 airframes are going to museums. They may or may not be whole, I know one is being cut-up for Inverness air museum. Think the rest are all going to fly to their resting places.
All other airframes are probably going to be chopped up and shipped out for scrap.
All other airframes are probably going to be chopped up and shipped out for scrap.
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Well on a positive note its the intention to have the MRA4 ready to take back the SAR responsabilities as soon as possible. Its all on the powers above and money but certainly wont be down to people not trying to get the aircraft into service. We are being asked a very difficult task with very little resources at present but getting the aircraft to operate safely from a groundcrew point of view will not be an issue and it will be done from us that I have no doubt.
Its all going to be dependent on the aircrew and there training.
Its all going to be dependent on the aircrew and there training.
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RumPunch, your statement is incorrect and misleading. We are not taking SAR duties back before IOC or any other tasks, we are making best efforts to be available but with no commitment. Also, you be-little the task the groundcrew are facing in producing aircraft and flying hours. If the hours are available the crews will get trained.
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No point in an MRA4 aircrew/groundcrew argument on this thread. The MRA4 will take SAR duties asap but no commitment to do so before IOC. The big boys are still wrangling over milestones in the introduction to Service so nobody can give you a definitive answer as to when each capability is to be declared. Anyone that tries to is just guessing or worse lying........
