What will the AFPRB say this year?
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The change of pay conditions will happen on 1 st April. The same as it did last year and the same as it will next year.
The chances are that our pay will increase by a limited margin as we all know having read the galaxy notices. If the government announce the pay change tomorrow it won't make any difference. The government are busy working out the budget which will be announced in March. Public sector pay will be frozen at 1%.
We will know which Government will form by 3rd June 2010 at the latest.
The chances are that our pay will increase by a limited margin as we all know having read the galaxy notices. If the government announce the pay change tomorrow it won't make any difference. The government are busy working out the budget which will be announced in March. Public sector pay will be frozen at 1%.
We will know which Government will form by 3rd June 2010 at the latest.
You may work for Lufthansa, but you can't be German with a sense of humour like that!
I'm just waiting for a post from Vec arguing that the pot and kettle are actually white.
I'm just waiting for a post from Vec arguing that the pot and kettle are actually white.
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The pot calling the kettle black
Meaning
The notion of a criticism a person is making of another could equally well apply to themself.
Origin
This phrase originates in Cervantes' Don Quixote, or at least in Thomas Shelton's 1620 translation - Cervantes Saavedra's History of Don Quixote:
"You are like what is said that the frying-pan said to the kettle, 'Avant, black-browes'."
The first person who is recorded as using the phrase in English was William Penn, the founder of Pennsylvania, in his Some fruits of solitude, 1693:
"For a Covetous Man to inveigh against Prodigality... is for the Pot to call the Kettle black."
Shakespeare had previously expressed a similar notion in a line in Troilus and Cressida, 1601- "The raven chides blackness."
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I'm just waiting for a post from Vec arguing that the pot and kettle are actually white.
making yourself look a kn0b.
According to the online translator, you Germans have an excellent form of wit!
"hor auf, so laut in dieser nervigen sprache zu reden"
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"stopped speaking speak so loudly in this irritating"
"hor auf, so laut in dieser nervigen sprache zu reden"
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"stopped speaking speak so loudly in this irritating"
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Oi, Girls Thread drift alert. I know you are all getting bored and anxious about how much you will not be getting in a oay rise this year.
well me and my flux capacitor have just returned from next month where the new leader of the UK defense force party, His empororship Shouty Clarkson has decreed that there will be a 10% rise in pay to all serving troops. this is to be paid for by the removal of the giving money to lazy wastrels so carried by the elected parties.
Moreover the fact that his empororship was put in place as the mouthpiece of the military coup staged by a group of irritated servicemen and women who marched on parliament and kicke the doors in.
All mp's who fiddled expenses now sit at Her Majesty's Displeasure in the Tower.
An unnamed source from within the ranks said the coup was started on PPrune from a comment made by an idiot......
well me and my flux capacitor have just returned from next month where the new leader of the UK defense force party, His empororship Shouty Clarkson has decreed that there will be a 10% rise in pay to all serving troops. this is to be paid for by the removal of the giving money to lazy wastrels so carried by the elected parties.
Moreover the fact that his empororship was put in place as the mouthpiece of the military coup staged by a group of irritated servicemen and women who marched on parliament and kicke the doors in.
All mp's who fiddled expenses now sit at Her Majesty's Displeasure in the Tower.
An unnamed source from within the ranks said the coup was started on PPrune from a comment made by an idiot......
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back to reality with a bump now.
£909,702,750,347 - this is the current government debt as of 11:21 this morning. It is going up by about 4000 per second or thereabouts.
You lot think you will get a pay rise.....yeah ok when I **** diamonds you get a pay rise.
£909,702,750,347 - this is the current government debt as of 11:21 this morning. It is going up by about 4000 per second or thereabouts.
You lot think you will get a pay rise.....yeah ok when I **** diamonds you get a pay rise.
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Stop me if I'm wrong, but for the last 10-15 years, the private sector have been giving themselves inflation-busting pay rises while the public sector for the most part has had to endure lower than inflation rises in order to keep in line with the govt's inflation targets. However, now that the private sector is feeling the squeeze and cutting pay it expects the public sector to do the same. Perhaps the private sector should have shown a little more restraint when times were good.
Maybe if AFPRB 39th report reflects the current inflation rate (3.5%) as it has always claimed to do in the past the public sector may start to close the gap that has opened up between private and public salaries over the last 15 years.
Then again, when has this govt ever stood up for anything? We'll see 1.5% if we're lucky in order to placate the private sector.
Maybe if AFPRB 39th report reflects the current inflation rate (3.5%) as it has always claimed to do in the past the public sector may start to close the gap that has opened up between private and public salaries over the last 15 years.
Then again, when has this govt ever stood up for anything? We'll see 1.5% if we're lucky in order to placate the private sector.
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There have also been some heavy Public sector pay rises in recent weeks.
Stoke CC gave their CEO a 34% pay rise and Wokingham gave theirs a 17% pay rise.
Me, I'm just happy to have a job
Stoke CC gave their CEO a 34% pay rise and Wokingham gave theirs a 17% pay rise.
Me, I'm just happy to have a job
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Vecvec,
We know that actions of CCs often beggar belief, and what you've stated would be no exception. Somehow, I can't see the AFPRB recommending a 34% rise for CDS!
However, while banks are continuing to award massive bonuses to staff out of public money I cannot see how anyone could complain at the AF and other public employees (nurses, teachers etc) getting a rise mirroring inflation.
That said, actions like those of Stoke CC only serve to fuel resentment among those who are currently feeling the pinch.
We know that actions of CCs often beggar belief, and what you've stated would be no exception. Somehow, I can't see the AFPRB recommending a 34% rise for CDS!
However, while banks are continuing to award massive bonuses to staff out of public money I cannot see how anyone could complain at the AF and other public employees (nurses, teachers etc) getting a rise mirroring inflation.
That said, actions like those of Stoke CC only serve to fuel resentment among those who are currently feeling the pinch.
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That said, actions like those of Stoke CC only serve to fuel resentment among those who are currently feeling the pinch.
The CS needs a scythe taking to it. Including local councils, that seem to p*ss people off, for increased taxes, with lower standards of public services.
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I understood that the Pay rises had to be announced before the start of the financial year... As the pay rises start from the beginning of April. The election may not be until June.
It's not rocket science....
The general election will be on 6 May. GB will want to hold on as long as possible for the economy to improve - he hasn't got a spontaneous bone in his body, and he isn't a gambler. 6 May is the date for council elections in England, so having the general election at the same time saves money. If GB goes on past 6 May he will be criticised heavily in all the press, for wasting money, being scared to go to the electorate, etc, which will all lose votes.....
As for announcing the Armed Forces pay rise.... It is not just the Armed Forces, it is all public sector workers, some 6 million of them, who are all voters. By 20th April (ish) you can check on JPA what your pay for the month will be, and hence your pay rise. Are the government really going to want the press to find out the pay increase from the workforce, rather than announce it themselves.
Any pay rise, or lack of it, will be announced by 1st April at the latest, but quite possibly no earlier!!!
The general election will be on 6 May. GB will want to hold on as long as possible for the economy to improve - he hasn't got a spontaneous bone in his body, and he isn't a gambler. 6 May is the date for council elections in England, so having the general election at the same time saves money. If GB goes on past 6 May he will be criticised heavily in all the press, for wasting money, being scared to go to the electorate, etc, which will all lose votes.....
As for announcing the Armed Forces pay rise.... It is not just the Armed Forces, it is all public sector workers, some 6 million of them, who are all voters. By 20th April (ish) you can check on JPA what your pay for the month will be, and hence your pay rise. Are the government really going to want the press to find out the pay increase from the workforce, rather than announce it themselves.
Any pay rise, or lack of it, will be announced by 1st April at the latest, but quite possibly no earlier!!!