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Old 5th Feb 2013, 18:44
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What is missing is the HF ariel under the boom. The original Airfix model missed this as well It can be seen on my post No 156.

The original rotor tips were yellow with a black nose. I know because I have one of 214's original rotor tips at home.


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Thanks for that , the aerial will be there on the production model , the older style blades should have the correct colours ,but any chance you can send me a pic of the blade tip so I can send it to Corgi?
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You are also missing the black section from behind the exhausts to hide the staining.
The red banding on the door was closer to the edge


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Further to my last, the ice shield over the tail rotor pitch controls were not around up to 1978 when I left and the 330J did not have them either.

Looking at the picture of CX my HF ariel is the FM ariel with the HF on wires. It also confirms my view that the 'CL' is one letter too far back.

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Already picked up on that thanks it will be removed on the model, as for the black area at the exhausts was it on the airframes late 72 early 73 or did that come later?
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Might have been later, not on this one

http://www.raf-upper-heyford.org/40A...seAndApuma.jpg
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That's what I thought ,thanks for the input.
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Just to cheer you up. I have just had a look at my film of 33 Sqn's reformation in 1971. Then the ariel under the boom was not fitted. I picked up the first Airfix model kits in 'CL' then XW227 on 28th March 1973.. The original 'CL' XW214, had just had a discussion with a hangar at Aldergrove, so when Airfix did their initial survey some months before it was possible the the FM fit had not been incorporated which would be why they did not have it on. However, as far as I am aware they would have all had them in NI.
Nutloose's pictures hows the HF ariel on the side. IIRC I picked up the first HF modified aircraft from the MU at Leconfield on 11th April 1974 so they would not have been fitted to 214 at that time.

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Remember to put the ash tray in the cockpit.
Most Puma ashtrays now reside in the jungle of Belize.
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Pleased to see the Black square on the nose was in place back then. I thought they would have fixed it by now!

I am told that the green bump stop under the tail and that stuff on the front is being refitted on the Mk 2s being reworked. no doubt the stuff under it has been updated- well I hope so because we robbed it from the Vulcan fleet in 81.

Enjoyed reading this thread. Wessex was the first a/c I did any design work for. Great memories of PIII, Cougar and even the Beaver.
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Wessex was the first a/c I did any design work for
It was designed....
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Just (belatedly) picked up on the sad news about Ken Boyd. I corresponded briefly with Ken when I was looking for photos of Junglies in NI to help illustrate my FAA Helicopter book back in 2010 and he was extremely generous and supportive.

I think the aviation community, and particularly those who subscribe to this thread, owe him a great deal for managing to capture on film such historical gems as we've been seeing from his archives. I know all too well how it can often be a struggle to persuade people to allow photography on military establishments - purely to record events as they happen, safe in the knowledge that one day they'll probably be the only visual record that survives of a particular event or era - but doing so in such sensitive locations as NI must have taken an altogether different level of persuasion and tenacity. My hat goes off to him. RIP Ken.

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I liberated an ashtray from an Argie Puma at Stanley in 1982. It proved most useful in the Chinook.
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The crewman in the model looks like a 1:1 scale model of LSH.

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Had the same thought myself!
(Their Wessex model has a life-sized crewman concealed behind the door too.)

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The first Puma due next month XW218 late 2009 at about the time 230 moved from Aldergrove to Benson.

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Nice model

If it smells of swarfega suggest you ask NutLoose about bespoke cleaning techniques
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Quite a nice looking model ... but I'm not an expert in these things.

However, I don't recollect ever seeing a Puma with its serial number painted adjacent to the starboard door ... any photographic evidence anywhere?
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Nice model, I think I may save up for one. Just one point about the colour of the RWR radome on the nose. I designed it in 1981/82 Chinook was first use in Falklands then SeaKing before Puma. the first ones were ABS and blueish/grey. they sufferded bad fatigue cracking. I was a young man with hair at the time and bowed down to my boss who insisted on using that "aircraft approved" interia trim material. the later ones were the UHMWHDPE green that did weather to wash out some of the rutile organic pigments that turned greyish. they were made on a shelly vac forming machine at Special Signals Unit (SSU) at Woolwich arsenal. following some advice from Dr's Davies and Simms at RARDE Waltham Abbey and RAPRA at Shawbury (Not RAF Shawbury)

Like feastdrivers yellow blade tip I still have one of the first green ones hanging in my garage.

After extensive UV exposure trials in Cloncurry Nr cairns in Queensland (No I never went) and testing at DGDQA part of the Arsenal I established a safe life of 10 years. (they could have gone longer but this was very safe) I did not imagine that some 30 years later they would still be in service and even carried forward onto the new Puma rebuild and Chinooks.

The one under the boom looks about Ok. I think someone lost the jig I made to trim them and they got bigger over the years.

Nice model anyway but don't forget the black tape around the nose door!
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