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Thanks buddy, I deliberately didn't mention that as I didn't want to step on any toes (it being the season of goodwill etc)!
Merry Christmas to you, them ........... everybody!
I am sure they're all great blokes and some current and ex Reds are my friends, but they ain't all done 'operational tours' my friend. There are some current members and recent past members who haven't got dusty boots...and how you can get promoted without going any time on Ops these days I've no idea.
Merry Christmas to you, them ........... everybody!
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Its quite shocking to see the open jealousy displayed on this thread. It appears to come from those who are bitter at never having the ability to be a red in the first place, or from members of other services who can't handle the constant irritation of knowing that they have nothing which even comes close.
All the best,
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BW
Blind,
this has nothing to do with jealousy, unless you're referring to funding. Many people are looking at deep cuts or even redundancy, and are fairly justified in asking why money is being spent on an aerobatic team, regardless of world class status.
It isnt jealousy, it's simple economics.
this has nothing to do with jealousy, unless you're referring to funding. Many people are looking at deep cuts or even redundancy, and are fairly justified in asking why money is being spent on an aerobatic team, regardless of world class status.
It isnt jealousy, it's simple economics.
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I second MGD ( again 
) With people looking down the barrel of unemployment ( seriously unfunny ) its a fair question to ask what is an entire squadron's worth of cost ( at 6.3 mil - my @rse ) doing to justify its existence ? If we are going to chop SSBNs, then the Reds / Falcons / RAFP dog teams and Christ knows what else are more than fair game...
As for jealousy, if its by people who are under threat of losing their jobs when you see what may be considered needless waste ( why do the reds need an SO1 to run the show ? ) then yup, you bet.
This is absolutely nothing personal against anybody, but the prospect of getting a P45 somewhat sharpens the focus.....
) With people looking down the barrel of unemployment ( seriously unfunny ) its a fair question to ask what is an entire squadron's worth of cost ( at 6.3 mil - my @rse ) doing to justify its existence ? If we are going to chop SSBNs, then the Reds / Falcons / RAFP dog teams and Christ knows what else are more than fair game...As for jealousy, if its by people who are under threat of losing their jobs when you see what may be considered needless waste ( why do the reds need an SO1 to run the show ? ) then yup, you bet.
This is absolutely nothing personal against anybody, but the prospect of getting a P45 somewhat sharpens the focus.....
It's the first time I've posted on here and I may be joining this particular debate after the moment has past for some. However, given recent events, the topic has, perhaps, regained some topical currency. Anyway, my piece is to say that I don't think military operations anywhere, certainly not at present, are diminshed because of the existence of the Red Arrows. There wouldn't be an extra half a dozen Tornados in Afghanistan now but for the existence of an aerobatics team. One more thing I will observe, however, it's about time the P.R. capers surrounding this team moderated just a bit. The Red Arrows-to state the obvious-are a military display formation, NOT JLS. I do believe there is a marked difference twix the two.
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Welcome FB.
There is already, perhaps unsurprisingly, a newer thread than this one which might be of interest.
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...ml#post5610551
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There is already, perhaps unsurprisingly, a newer thread than this one which might be of interest.
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...ml#post5610551
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Why not send the Reds on a tour of those dusty places to aid with "winning hearts and minds"? Might end all this negativity about non-operational spending.
What an impression they could make, black, red and green smoke on!
What an impression they could make, black, red and green smoke on!
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Well the reds looks nice still, if they can parade around the globe and have holidays then good on them . We are all just envious that we were never good enough to get picked to go on them.
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Hmmm I am a fan of the reds. Great show always. But I do have to think a bit, which is hard these days. That the Navy used to have a fleet review....... which was huge. The Army used to have a great Royal Tattoo ( I know I spelt that wrong) which was great. The Army even had an air show at Middle Wallop. The BBMF was all over the country, each station had its' own open day with flying involved. Can I ask the ones who are informed................ where did all the money go???? Apart from bloody middle managment consultants. So chop them , keep the reds, bring back pongo flying, buy a carrier or two........... O as a another thought, how about keeping lads and ladys out in sandy stuff as happy as you can be in that world.
