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Im sure some of you guys @ girls have got some good stories to tell about aishows like RIAT so lets hear them. For starters, sitting in MT section at fairford in 98, coach driver pulls up with 1 pax who he can not understand. Guy falls out of coach and is obviously pi$$ed. Try to talk to him but all he could say was Russian, Russian. Guy starts throwing up all over the shop. Sit him down and give him water. Tel boss to get on the phone to protacol and get the russian interpreter down here pronto. They can not find the interpreter he`s gone missing. Yes you guest it, he was the russian interpreter. turns out he went drinking with the russians, drinking russian vodka, and was trying to drink them under the table. Funny thing was we never saw him again. Dozy git or what.
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I can remember being on one of the Aircrew buses, with a load of European fast-jet guys (complete with a German with a HUGE handlebar mustache, drinking ale from a horn!) and they were all snorting something that they insisted was legal in their country. Laid one foriegn guy out for six!
Also, i might add, those of you who were at the Hangar Party in '99 who remember the first stage act? - We were the first to zap the female lead singer. Started a mad rush, because by the end of the evening you couldn't see a square centimetre on her that wasn't patched!!
We also prized the US number plate off the only US badged Land Rover we'd ever seen (Thought it was a travesty at the time)
PS: Anyone who came across a 612 VGS zap somewhere, leave a note - want to see who noticed!
Also, i might add, those of you who were at the Hangar Party in '99 who remember the first stage act? - We were the first to zap the female lead singer. Started a mad rush, because by the end of the evening you couldn't see a square centimetre on her that wasn't patched!!
We also prized the US number plate off the only US badged Land Rover we'd ever seen (Thought it was a travesty at the time)
PS: Anyone who came across a 612 VGS zap somewhere, leave a note - want to see who noticed!
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(R)IAT? Yes, I have a story...
In the late 80s, as the proud owner of a shiny new ATPL(H), I had just started an instructional tour at Wallop. At that year's Open Day I met a very interesting TP/A2 QHI who'd just spent 4 years fixing up a Bell 205/UH1H that used to belong to the Argentines. He'd operated it around the FI for a short while after the Argentines capitulated - they'd abandoned it and all its paperwork on the racecourse at Stanley along with several others which were later merely vandalised. This fella had then, in the face of massive obstruction from his parent service, managed to have the Huey brought back to the UK. When his lords and masters found out what he'd done they immediately decided to ship it to one of the ranges as a target, but he persevered and set about restoring/maintaining it to display flying condition. The whole story is probably worthy of a book one day...
Anyway, part of the arrangement he put together for ensuring that the aircraft had a future was that the RAF agreed a transfer of ownership for a nominal sum (one pound, I think) to the Benevolent Fund. The subsidiary of the BF responsible for organising air shows - IAT - became the management agency.
For 3 years or so all was rosy. I was single with plenty of free weekends, had time on the 205, the pilot who'd done all the work was threatened with divorce or worse if he continued to spend all his spare time (and money?) on the beast so by sheer good fortune I became part of the display crew. Great fun at the airshows, even more fun at the steam fairs/ garden fetes/ open-air museums we flew to most summer weekends. The aircraft made an appearance in a James Bond film, and generally did tons to keep the RAF and IAT in the public eye.
So what happened next? Well, I don't know all the details, but it would appear that the management of IAT grew tired of the beastie. Balance sheets were drawn up which showed it to be a drain on resources. I'm partisan, so I can't be totally relied upon for a dispassionate view. However, I believed the bloke who'd done all the real work when he pointed out that it could still, with the available sponsorship, be used to bring in an income to the RAF BF.
One summer's day we took the aircraft to Farnborough - unusual tasking, as we weren't normally used for trade do's like SBAC. After putting the aircraft to bed the IAT management team approached the TP and asked to speak to him, alone, about the Huey. It turned out that the decision had been made, without consulting the bloke who'd effectively given all his spare time for 7 years to the project, to sell the aircraft. It was put up for auction; I don't know all the details, but I believe an offer was accepted which then fell through. When the TP tried to appeal to the hierarchy, he was interviewed without coffee and left in no doubt whatsoever that his efforts were unwelcome and in vain. He left the RAF.
I don't know where G-HUEY is now - she had an unceremonious part as a prop in a dreadful Wimminz anti-Vietnam (20 years after the war was over!) TV 'drama' and was later to be seen at, I believe, Thruxton mouldering sadly away. All the goodwill, all the free help from as far afield as Odiham, Jordan and Oman with free parts, all the good publicity with one of the few flying display aircraft with a real history - all thrown away on a management whim.
IAT? Wouldn't touch 'em. You won't see me at one of their rip-off displays. Not that I'd be missed any more than one of their more useful assets...
NB - All opinions expressed above are entirely Thud's; I've not consulted the TP or anyone else, and relied entirely on my own dodgy memory to put this tirade together. If anyone knows the facts better, please post them here.
In the late 80s, as the proud owner of a shiny new ATPL(H), I had just started an instructional tour at Wallop. At that year's Open Day I met a very interesting TP/A2 QHI who'd just spent 4 years fixing up a Bell 205/UH1H that used to belong to the Argentines. He'd operated it around the FI for a short while after the Argentines capitulated - they'd abandoned it and all its paperwork on the racecourse at Stanley along with several others which were later merely vandalised. This fella had then, in the face of massive obstruction from his parent service, managed to have the Huey brought back to the UK. When his lords and masters found out what he'd done they immediately decided to ship it to one of the ranges as a target, but he persevered and set about restoring/maintaining it to display flying condition. The whole story is probably worthy of a book one day...
Anyway, part of the arrangement he put together for ensuring that the aircraft had a future was that the RAF agreed a transfer of ownership for a nominal sum (one pound, I think) to the Benevolent Fund. The subsidiary of the BF responsible for organising air shows - IAT - became the management agency.
For 3 years or so all was rosy. I was single with plenty of free weekends, had time on the 205, the pilot who'd done all the work was threatened with divorce or worse if he continued to spend all his spare time (and money?) on the beast so by sheer good fortune I became part of the display crew. Great fun at the airshows, even more fun at the steam fairs/ garden fetes/ open-air museums we flew to most summer weekends. The aircraft made an appearance in a James Bond film, and generally did tons to keep the RAF and IAT in the public eye.
So what happened next? Well, I don't know all the details, but it would appear that the management of IAT grew tired of the beastie. Balance sheets were drawn up which showed it to be a drain on resources. I'm partisan, so I can't be totally relied upon for a dispassionate view. However, I believed the bloke who'd done all the real work when he pointed out that it could still, with the available sponsorship, be used to bring in an income to the RAF BF.
One summer's day we took the aircraft to Farnborough - unusual tasking, as we weren't normally used for trade do's like SBAC. After putting the aircraft to bed the IAT management team approached the TP and asked to speak to him, alone, about the Huey. It turned out that the decision had been made, without consulting the bloke who'd effectively given all his spare time for 7 years to the project, to sell the aircraft. It was put up for auction; I don't know all the details, but I believe an offer was accepted which then fell through. When the TP tried to appeal to the hierarchy, he was interviewed without coffee and left in no doubt whatsoever that his efforts were unwelcome and in vain. He left the RAF.
I don't know where G-HUEY is now - she had an unceremonious part as a prop in a dreadful Wimminz anti-Vietnam (20 years after the war was over!) TV 'drama' and was later to be seen at, I believe, Thruxton mouldering sadly away. All the goodwill, all the free help from as far afield as Odiham, Jordan and Oman with free parts, all the good publicity with one of the few flying display aircraft with a real history - all thrown away on a management whim.
IAT? Wouldn't touch 'em. You won't see me at one of their rip-off displays. Not that I'd be missed any more than one of their more useful assets...
NB - All opinions expressed above are entirely Thud's; I've not consulted the TP or anyone else, and relied entirely on my own dodgy memory to put this tirade together. If anyone knows the facts better, please post them here.
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Last I saw of GHUEY or AE-412 was at Cranfield at last years PFA rally on the disused rwy looking all sorry for herself in a poor condition with the the pax area stuffed full of junk. Might take a trip up this weekend in the old 152 see if she is still there....
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Funniest thing I've experienced at RIAT was the time the airshow radio station played something they shouldn't have.
I was in the car trying to get out along with the other thousands of people and on the radio came a couple of lines of "I'm a w*nker" by Ivor Biggun. There was a silence and then a big appology but it made my day.
I was in the car trying to get out along with the other thousands of people and on the radio came a couple of lines of "I'm a w*nker" by Ivor Biggun. There was a silence and then a big appology but it made my day.
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Another story concerns a show at Cranfield. The Bucc was due to display (remember them). It had started the engines and a ground crew member went to pull the chocs out but one of them was completely wedged. There were several frantic minutes as people tried to pull and kick to get the stubborn bugger out. Eventually someone got a crowbar and smashed it to get it out. It was one of the Bucc's last displays in the UK and I'd like to think it was just objecting to its impending retirement.
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Seeing as the Waddo 2001 thread has wandered into this direction and with the Show being 2 weeks away...
MOTF; you forgot to mention that kids with an adult go free. Doesn't happen at Alton Towers last time I looked.
EESDL; facts please, not guesses. I have it on very good authority that Gloucester Police charged over £200k for overtime for the 99 show. The Leic/Cambs/Northants triumverate wanted to charge a bit more. Puts 'bills' in perspective doesn't it? In spite of this, far from break even, the profit margin for Fairford shows has been, as I understand, well into 6 figures.
I fully recognise that almost £60 for a family is steep and not as affordable as it could be, but this does not seem to deter over 200k people, year-on-year, who by and large see it as VFM.
Biggest and best military airshow in the world?
Probably.
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MOTF; you forgot to mention that kids with an adult go free. Doesn't happen at Alton Towers last time I looked.
EESDL; facts please, not guesses. I have it on very good authority that Gloucester Police charged over £200k for overtime for the 99 show. The Leic/Cambs/Northants triumverate wanted to charge a bit more. Puts 'bills' in perspective doesn't it? In spite of this, far from break even, the profit margin for Fairford shows has been, as I understand, well into 6 figures.
I fully recognise that almost £60 for a family is steep and not as affordable as it could be, but this does not seem to deter over 200k people, year-on-year, who by and large see it as VFM.
Biggest and best military airshow in the world?
Probably.
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Then there was this officer, who may now be something to do with RIAT, who wheedled his way onto a VC10 going to the Dayton Air Show. It was a hot day so he drank lots of the "orange juice and chocolate milk" thoughtfully provided by the Tanker crew. By the evening hangar bash he was found,resting peacefully , next to the portaloo's and a visit to see the RAF Wing Commander was considered to be an essential part of the evenings entertainment.
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Then at the 1993 40th anniversary Herc Meet at IAT, on the Friday Mr Lockheed invited all the herc crews round for lunch.
Free beer and wine went down in huge quantities, and people then objected when the bar shut and Mr Lockheed tried to get us to leave so they could clear up and get ready for a VIP tea.
Things got interesting. A US crew instigated a flag pole climbing competition, that the RAF and the Ausies joined in. The aim was to get all the Lockheed flags. Another crew decided to re open the bar, and things were generally getting out of hand.
There was then much marquee climbing and competitions to see how many people we could get on the roof. (Good for watching the Hungarian Mig 21 practice!)
We left just as the Snow Drops arrived with their four legged assistants!
All in all a brilliant afternoons entertainment.
We then went back, and well oiled entertained the Central TV news crew trying to be sensible on a live TV broadcast.
Oh those were the days......
Mind you we did take a lot of flack off Joe public last year at RIAT, as they blamed us for the gash weather
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;-) It looked like a good idea at the time :-)
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Free beer and wine went down in huge quantities, and people then objected when the bar shut and Mr Lockheed tried to get us to leave so they could clear up and get ready for a VIP tea.
Things got interesting. A US crew instigated a flag pole climbing competition, that the RAF and the Ausies joined in. The aim was to get all the Lockheed flags. Another crew decided to re open the bar, and things were generally getting out of hand.
There was then much marquee climbing and competitions to see how many people we could get on the roof. (Good for watching the Hungarian Mig 21 practice!)
We left just as the Snow Drops arrived with their four legged assistants!
All in all a brilliant afternoons entertainment.
We then went back, and well oiled entertained the Central TV news crew trying to be sensible on a live TV broadcast.
Oh those were the days......
Mind you we did take a lot of flack off Joe public last year at RIAT, as they blamed us for the gash weather
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;-) It looked like a good idea at the time :-)
[This message has been edited by Descend to What Height?!? (edited 05 July 2001).]
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After the hangar party a few years ago I woke up at 4 in the morning in a kiddies adventure playground, no idea where I was!
Found a phone box and called a very amused operator who told me I was in Cirencester. Eventually got a taxi after 2 hours who charged me £43.00 to the hotel. Please, can anyone tell me how I got there???????
Found a phone box and called a very amused operator who told me I was in Cirencester. Eventually got a taxi after 2 hours who charged me £43.00 to the hotel. Please, can anyone tell me how I got there???????
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13-12 provide me with an email addy and I'll see if I can run you a copy.
My moooother said....
that I never should....
play with the naughty rude girlz in the wood.
Nah, I'll save it for the Sqn songs thread!
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My moooother said....
that I never should....
play with the naughty rude girlz in the wood.
Nah, I'll save it for the Sqn songs thread!
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Tiger meet - Mr Magoo, who drove right between the Follow Me car and an F16.
My initial reaction on seeing the Mig mid air in '93 - 'fantastic, how did they do that?'.
Oh, and of course, the muppets. Descend to what height spoke of being blamed for last year's low cloud - we had Cadets being blamed too ! Muppets asking us if we could shift barriers closer to the runway and the like.
Airfixpilot - were you on the Staff site to the right of 2342's little compound? We were the ones that had tons of gizzits.
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My initial reaction on seeing the Mig mid air in '93 - 'fantastic, how did they do that?'.
Oh, and of course, the muppets. Descend to what height spoke of being blamed for last year's low cloud - we had Cadets being blamed too ! Muppets asking us if we could shift barriers closer to the runway and the like.
Airfixpilot - were you on the Staff site to the right of 2342's little compound? We were the ones that had tons of gizzits.
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Certainly was MP. Ah those were the days. I remember it well! Walking down the road to the social club, every pocket on the flying suit filled with tinnies, or 2ltr coke bottles full of bright orange home brew. You can carry almost 7ltrs of alcohol without using your hands, if you are careful (make sure you've got no lose stitching, especially across the shoulders).
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...and then there were the 'enthusiasts' at the end of the runway, who got too close to the B-ONE as it went to full reheat on its Friday practice. They got blown halfway into Lincs - bodies and cameras everywhere!!
Any other comments (non-flying) on RIAT 01?
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