Chinook - Still Hitting Back
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Arkroyal,
Yes, the document was passed to their lordships and they did question Wratten about it, a document that had been hard to obtain because, apparently, someone had been trying to keep it away from prying eyes.
Other points about senior RAF officers are, sadly, true. There are, of course, some notable exceptions, but people like this promote similar hard-nosed individuals and, believe me, there are others who will replace them in the near future, already well-up in the HQ Strike Command hierarchy. They are universally arrogant and abuse their status (I know of one Air Marshal who, as a Station Commander, ordered a teenaged female steward to don wellingtons and clean out his fish-pond! She subsequently volunteered for 6 months in the Falklands to escape this kind of mistreatment). Perhaps a TV producer would like to research some similar stories, then name & shame? These people are no better than Honecker or Pinochet.
Yes, the document was passed to their lordships and they did question Wratten about it, a document that had been hard to obtain because, apparently, someone had been trying to keep it away from prying eyes.
Other points about senior RAF officers are, sadly, true. There are, of course, some notable exceptions, but people like this promote similar hard-nosed individuals and, believe me, there are others who will replace them in the near future, already well-up in the HQ Strike Command hierarchy. They are universally arrogant and abuse their status (I know of one Air Marshal who, as a Station Commander, ordered a teenaged female steward to don wellingtons and clean out his fish-pond! She subsequently volunteered for 6 months in the Falklands to escape this kind of mistreatment). Perhaps a TV producer would like to research some similar stories, then name & shame? These people are no better than Honecker or Pinochet.
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I hope more than ever that this can be put to rights, although I think that the two perpetrators will probably not be chastised because of their positions. However, their continued insistence that they cannot possibly be wrong says so much about their characters and worth as men, let alone as senior officers.
The level of support on this and other sites shows the depth of feeling of many others, whatever the outcome of the inquiry. I for one am very glad to be no longer under their command and if my persistence has in any way helped, I am very glad.
The level of support on this and other sites shows the depth of feeling of many others, whatever the outcome of the inquiry. I for one am very glad to be no longer under their command and if my persistence has in any way helped, I am very glad.
Is it true that a certain Very Senior Officer was heard to say in recent Days to a pilot flying war sorties from the desert "There's a thin line between Flight Safety and blackmail"......
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Osama bill Wratten, another fine example of authority, which is given; without respect, which must be earned.
There have been many commanders who have not been loved for their unpopular decisions but have at least been respected for their integrity.
Are tunnel vision and the provision of service isue blinkers still part of the annual eye test for VSOs?
Who needs morale when you've got discipline.
There have been many commanders who have not been loved for their unpopular decisions but have at least been respected for their integrity.
Are tunnel vision and the provision of service isue blinkers still part of the annual eye test for VSOs?
Who needs morale when you've got discipline.
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Hi all.
You may like to know that the corrected version of evidence from the Lords Select Committee hearings are now being posted on the Parliament web site. The latest version includes copies of the slides used by the Air Marshals during their presentations. The link (I hope) is: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld/ldchin.htm
Alternatively, check the link out via the official campaign web site: http://www.chinook-justice.org
You could always sign our petition whilst you are there!
Regards as always
Brian
"Justice has no expiry date" - John Cook
You may like to know that the corrected version of evidence from the Lords Select Committee hearings are now being posted on the Parliament web site. The latest version includes copies of the slides used by the Air Marshals during their presentations. The link (I hope) is: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld/ldchin.htm
Alternatively, check the link out via the official campaign web site: http://www.chinook-justice.org
You could always sign our petition whilst you are there!
Regards as always
Brian
"Justice has no expiry date" - John Cook
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I'm going to have to close this thread as it's getting too long for our overloaded server to handle.
I'll start another thread entitled "Chinook - Still Hitting Back 2" with a link to this thread.
--Mik
I'll start another thread entitled "Chinook - Still Hitting Back 2" with a link to this thread.
--Mik
