Another mate leaving..........
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'Mercenaries' have 1 707 at the mo - FSTA consortium will have 'lots' of spare frames. Any money the USN are watching the competition with some interest.
Sorry - must stop reading.
'Mercenaries' have 1 707 at the mo - FSTA consortium will have 'lots' of spare frames. Any money the USN are watching the competition with some interest.
Sorry - must stop reading.
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Whether or not the so called recession hits the airline industry is of no consequence to myself - I am leaving the Air Force at my fast approaching option point! I would have PVR'd if I had more time to do than I have. If I have to, I will pack shelves in Tesco's - but I cannot work for an organisation that relies heavily on the good will of its people to get by! The sad fact is that I'm not alone.
As for jobs outside - I have, Like many others, plenty of good contacts and already have tentative offers from interested parties; who find it hard to believe that the Air Force is not too bothered about pilot retention - or at least not actively doing something about it.
As for jobs outside - I have, Like many others, plenty of good contacts and already have tentative offers from interested parties; who find it hard to believe that the Air Force is not too bothered about pilot retention - or at least not actively doing something about it.
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If you mean the same Sir Peter who was featured in the Mail on Sunday a few years ago for massively overspending on his quarter at Benson and the same Sir Peter who now spends £75,000 p.a. of public money on cooks, gardners and personal batting staff then sorry love, he's too busy living the good life to read this. He doesn't give a flying **** about you or your conditions.
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IMHO..
FV states a view shared by many airlines
and employers of pilots worldwide
i.e. Global Slowdown will result in an
'easing' of pilot recruitment problems
- economic down cycle and all that
The trouble with that view is that it is a gamble for the employers concerned e.g The RAF
This 'easing' of recruitment problems aint happening - even in the USA which has
talked its way into a (dubbya) recession
as a means of forcing through tax cuts..
The markets have bounced
RAF HR policies need revisiting .. ?
FV states a view shared by many airlines
and employers of pilots worldwide
i.e. Global Slowdown will result in an
'easing' of pilot recruitment problems
- economic down cycle and all that
The trouble with that view is that it is a gamble for the employers concerned e.g The RAF
This 'easing' of recruitment problems aint happening - even in the USA which has
talked its way into a (dubbya) recession
as a means of forcing through tax cuts..
The markets have bounced
RAF HR policies need revisiting .. ?
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Things haven't changed thatmuch! At Waddo in the '60s even the execs (of which, believe it or not, I was one) found it impossible to get even the most basic repairs/redecoration done to their quarters because the whole budget had been blown on the AOC's residence at Bawtry. Once to convert it to open-plan and then, when the next one moved in and wanted a separate dining room, to convert it back again. C'est la vie!
PS haven't sorted all these new "UBB" gizmos yet!
[ 12 July 2001: Message edited by: Flatus Veteranus ]
Things haven't changed thatmuch! At Waddo in the '60s even the execs (of which, believe it or not, I was one) found it impossible to get even the most basic repairs/redecoration done to their quarters because the whole budget had been blown on the AOC's residence at Bawtry. Once to convert it to open-plan and then, when the next one moved in and wanted a separate dining room, to convert it back again. C'est la vie!
PS haven't sorted all these new "UBB" gizmos yet!
[ 12 July 2001: Message edited by: Flatus Veteranus ]
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I'll acquiesce to being heavily biased to the idea, but how about relying on stronger reserve forces?
In the US, the National Guard and USAF reserve provide an economical, but highly effective combat force. This defence structure also provides an option of retaining the services of qualified military pilots when they leave full time service.
Higher age limits mean that Reserve and Guard units can select pilot candidates who are already qualified proffesional pilots. This reduces training risks and keeps pilots flying regularly between reserve duty.
I would love to join the RN again, but only in a flying capacity.
In the US, the National Guard and USAF reserve provide an economical, but highly effective combat force. This defence structure also provides an option of retaining the services of qualified military pilots when they leave full time service.
Higher age limits mean that Reserve and Guard units can select pilot candidates who are already qualified proffesional pilots. This reduces training risks and keeps pilots flying regularly between reserve duty.
I would love to join the RN again, but only in a flying capacity.
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I appreciate that kind of thing is not new. My post was merely to warn the chap before me that he was looking in totally the wrong direction for help/sympathy. If UnderPowered wants me to expand on that he is quite welcome to e-mail me.
On the quarters side I don't think several wrongs make a right. Why, in 2001, should well qualified professionals have to live in slums whilst a handful of families try to recreate the days of the Raj? As someone on this site so rightly says, "if you keep doing what you've always done ..."
A quick flick through the threads here will reveal discontent with conditions/equipment/housing/pay all of which eat away at morale. There have been massive cuts to the defence budget. Why then squander what little you have on fripparies? I've heard the argument of 'different budgets' far too many times. It's boll*x.
I want my tax £'s to be used to defend my country, not to put gold leaf on some snotty tart's bathroom tiles!
I appreciate that kind of thing is not new. My post was merely to warn the chap before me that he was looking in totally the wrong direction for help/sympathy. If UnderPowered wants me to expand on that he is quite welcome to e-mail me.
On the quarters side I don't think several wrongs make a right. Why, in 2001, should well qualified professionals have to live in slums whilst a handful of families try to recreate the days of the Raj? As someone on this site so rightly says, "if you keep doing what you've always done ..."
A quick flick through the threads here will reveal discontent with conditions/equipment/housing/pay all of which eat away at morale. There have been massive cuts to the defence budget. Why then squander what little you have on fripparies? I've heard the argument of 'different budgets' far too many times. It's boll*x.
I want my tax £'s to be used to defend my country, not to put gold leaf on some snotty tart's bathroom tiles!
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BEagle,
Sorry a bit slow picking up on your comments from a while ago about the only people being left in the RAF will be navs. Guess my seat and I'm leaving on my option after PMA have let me down for the last time. I know of many other navs doing the same. I have been surprised at just how many non airline jobs there are out there and am actually finding it difficult to choose!! so navs take heart!
There is a critical shortage of all aircrew esp. FJ navs and PMA need to address it pdq. Why not ask those who are leaving why they are leaving for starters?...Or is that admitting defeat??
Sorry a bit slow picking up on your comments from a while ago about the only people being left in the RAF will be navs. Guess my seat and I'm leaving on my option after PMA have let me down for the last time. I know of many other navs doing the same. I have been surprised at just how many non airline jobs there are out there and am actually finding it difficult to choose!! so navs take heart!
There is a critical shortage of all aircrew esp. FJ navs and PMA need to address it pdq. Why not ask those who are leaving why they are leaving for starters?...Or is that admitting defeat??
Quite right mate! Best of luck outside, sorry that HMFC has let you down. But are Binnsworth really the villains here? Or is the problem deeper rooted?
