"RAF Apache" attacked with £8 Torch
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from a strictly civvie point of view, it there was a f******* great din going on in the dark, in or near my back garden, I would also be inclined to grab a torch & try to find out what was going on.
Wouldn't you?
And to end up in a cell for 9 hours because you don't know that someone out there is wearing night vision enhancing equipment that doesn't like a torch (not a l@ser) shone at it sounds a bit OTT to me.
from a strictly civvie point of view, it there was a f******* great din going on in the dark, in or near my back garden, I would also be inclined to grab a torch & try to find out what was going on.
Wouldn't you?
And to end up in a cell for 9 hours because you don't know that someone out there is wearing night vision enhancing equipment that doesn't like a torch (not a l@ser) shone at it sounds a bit OTT to me.
Much nicer if you were to show some unconditional support for the lads that put their life on the line , for your lifestyle, and rest assured the Apache squadrons are right there in the front line or rehearsing for it.
>rest assured the Apache squadrons are right there in the front line or rehearsing for it.<
An Apache has not yet been seen in EGOS Field 24 at N52°43’42.24” W002°59’48.23” (N52.72840 W002.99672) and my torch has no batteries.
An Apache has not yet been seen in EGOS Field 24 at N52°43’42.24” W002°59’48.23” (N52.72840 W002.99672) and my torch has no batteries.
Do we really need stories in the 'media' about old dodderers being arrested for shining torches at jellicopters when it's hard enough already to get the public behind the war in Allbranistan?
Couldn't some bloke from the Polis or the RAF have phoned the old guy up and said something suitably charming to him and left it at that?
Couldn't some bloke from the Polis or the RAF have phoned the old guy up and said something suitably charming to him and left it at that?
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Dear Mr Parabellum
I can assure you that the military has my support. Especially the poor guys on the ground in Afghanistan. Your assumption that I'm anti military is somewhat insulting.
However please go back to the question.
You have a f****** great din happening in or near your back garden in the middle of the night.
What would you have done?
I can assure you that the military has my support. Especially the poor guys on the ground in Afghanistan. Your assumption that I'm anti military is somewhat insulting.
However please go back to the question.
You have a f****** great din happening in or near your back garden in the middle of the night.
What would you have done?
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Having recently enjoyed a Show of Force from a couple of these machines I wouldn't put the din anywhere near earthquake stylee.
Unless they were unleashing their ammo at the time, in which case I doubt his trusty torch wouldn't have made a better target.
But I have plenty of space in my back garden for the boys to come and play if you ever make it past Tain again, quite happy to donate some (dimly lit) torches for target practice too!
Unless they were unleashing their ammo at the time, in which case I doubt his trusty torch wouldn't have made a better target.
But I have plenty of space in my back garden for the boys to come and play if you ever make it past Tain again, quite happy to donate some (dimly lit) torches for target practice too!
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For sure this happened to me in Reading a few years ago at summer school. It seemed like it was there half the night. Nowt you can do about it, chances of seeing are nil, and it was as likely police as ARMY.
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A few years ago at EGOS there was a famously serial complainer who lived pretty adjacent to the field. Apparently, one day his increasingly profane 'phone calls to Ops ended with words to the effect that "Next time one of those blessed choppers disturbs us, I'll take me 12 bore to it...."
OC Ops contacts Old Bill, who give said farmer chappie an interview without coffee ...... and confiscate his shotguns ....... and cancel his Firearms Certificate!
Appropriate result I'd say.....
OC Ops contacts Old Bill, who give said farmer chappie an interview without coffee ...... and confiscate his shotguns ....... and cancel his Firearms Certificate!
Appropriate result I'd say.....
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when some angry farmer guns one of these Apache's out the sky Tony Martin style.....
You don't think an intelligent minded human could devise a way to knock an Apache out the sky?
Although failing that i'm sure he knows where the base is they fly from and which pub the pilots frequent too. He knows fully well that wannabe tough guys in Apache's acting like rich chavs in the night aren't so much of a threat when they're staggering out the pub car park half drunk, doubt the pilots would fair to well in an unarmed Apache-less combat with a farmer with a shotgun...
What tops it off it most of you snobby forces types wonder why the public has to be bombarded with media propaganda everyday just to feel halfway inclined to "support the troops"
What tops it off it most of you snobby forces types wonder why the public has to be bombarded with media propaganda everyday just to feel halfway inclined to "support the troops"
Over reaction that could have been better handled by someone turning up in uniform and apologising for the distrurbance and making him aware of the dangers of doing it plus an invite to come along to the base and have a look see as a guest.
Great PR and then you have a loyal supporter.
WTF do the PR people do all day anyway.
People forget that the everyone in the services operate with the consent of the people, take that away and what do you have ?
Great PR and then you have a loyal supporter.
WTF do the PR people do all day anyway.
People forget that the everyone in the services operate with the consent of the people, take that away and what do you have ?
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My story was doing OK, and I would have gotten away with it, if that meddling Pontius hadn't come along and insisted I stick to the fact's
(note my 'Scooby Doo style' caught in the act line there!).
Ok, Ok I was not strictly accurate, but it sounded good at this end, and will try harder to keep up next time.
(note my 'Scooby Doo style' caught in the act line there!).
Ok, Ok I was not strictly accurate, but it sounded good at this end
, and will try harder to keep up next time.
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PR, his view...
What isn't mentioned at all is the thoroughly nasty letter that accompanied this attack on the AH, believe me, there's a lot more in this that seems to have been conveniently left, as for PR, it's not worth the effort when idiots like this are allowed to lie in the press. Air police is bang on with regards to attitude, trust me.
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Yes, I would be the first to admit...there does indeed seem an element of dislike for the new occupants of Wattisham by this chap. If one lives in the vicinity of such an area then its highly likely "roary whizzy things" will be close by to practice the required manouvres of their role. No doubt all will come to light in due course.
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I've mentioned this before, but it seems particuarly relevant here...
My grlfriend lives in a small village near Midhurst, West Sussex.
Chinooks going by ( lights off, presumably on NVG's ) during the night are quite frequent.
Some NIMBY in the parish magazine moaned about being " menaced " by them !
I'm ex BAe, and despite that still pro-air, pro - training for 'our' guys off out to hellish conditions on this country's behalf.
I contacted the comms / P.R. Officer at Odiham to ask if they could supply any explanatory posters etc; their response was, " we can do better than that, we'll come and do a presentation explaining why we do what we do" !
Having chatted with the chap who looks after the village hall, we both decided the attendance might well be too small for the RAF to make the effort; the local town of Midhurst has a much better venue, with a large catchment area, so that's planned to happen soon.
By coincidence I happened to ask the parish mag' writer to request in his next issue ' don't shine a bright light at passing helo's / aircraft whatever you do '
Maybe the Appaches and Chinooks etc could carry paintball ammo' for a witty reply to gits with torches or l@sers !
My grlfriend lives in a small village near Midhurst, West Sussex.
Chinooks going by ( lights off, presumably on NVG's ) during the night are quite frequent.
Some NIMBY in the parish magazine moaned about being " menaced " by them !
I'm ex BAe, and despite that still pro-air, pro - training for 'our' guys off out to hellish conditions on this country's behalf.
I contacted the comms / P.R. Officer at Odiham to ask if they could supply any explanatory posters etc; their response was, " we can do better than that, we'll come and do a presentation explaining why we do what we do" !
Having chatted with the chap who looks after the village hall, we both decided the attendance might well be too small for the RAF to make the effort; the local town of Midhurst has a much better venue, with a large catchment area, so that's planned to happen soon.
By coincidence I happened to ask the parish mag' writer to request in his next issue ' don't shine a bright light at passing helo's / aircraft whatever you do '
Maybe the Appaches and Chinooks etc could carry paintball ammo' for a witty reply to gits with torches or l@sers !
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In a previous life living in the 'burbs of sunny Manchester I had more disturbed nights than I do now living on the edge of an LFA & AIAA.
The number of nights spent listening to the constabulary's whirlybird, the wailing of sirens and the screeching of tyres as they tried to catch up with spotty faced chav's upto their nocturnal twocing was pretty much a nightly occurrence.
Now this is where the Apache's should be training, a few bursts from the cannon and spotty faced chav is despatched and we all can get back to sleep. OK a few peeps pride & joys will get totalled in the process but no more than there are now, the crime rate will fall and we avoid the court / prison costs etc.
Thread drift I know......I'm orff!
The number of nights spent listening to the constabulary's whirlybird, the wailing of sirens and the screeching of tyres as they tried to catch up with spotty faced chav's upto their nocturnal twocing was pretty much a nightly occurrence.
Now this is where the Apache's should be training, a few bursts from the cannon and spotty faced chav is despatched and we all can get back to sleep. OK a few peeps pride & joys will get totalled in the process but no more than there are now, the crime rate will fall and we avoid the court / prison costs etc.
Thread drift I know......I'm orff!
