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How much stick will they get for that @ Valley?
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The 22nd of September to be precise. A sad day.
74 with Hawks didn't do the Tiger badge justice, and now 'the Tiger flt' have got Tincans?, get real.
To the members of 'the Tiger flight':
Wear the badges near Valley and we'll chop you, wear them when I meet you on detachment and I'll chop you, later if you mention that you were a member- I'll chop you, in fact boys, you've got to work pretty hard on just staying alive (in the training system anyway).
Hey Zag- are you qualified to say T, T, T!?
Gib rules.
Have you been Bished today?
74 with Hawks didn't do the Tiger badge justice, and now 'the Tiger flt' have got Tincans?, get real.
To the members of 'the Tiger flight':
Wear the badges near Valley and we'll chop you, wear them when I meet you on detachment and I'll chop you, later if you mention that you were a member- I'll chop you, in fact boys, you've got to work pretty hard on just staying alive (in the training system anyway).
Hey Zag- are you qualified to say T, T, T!?
Gib rules.
Have you been Bished today?
Just who are you, Poison Arrow, to threaten the studes in this way; maybe you meant your post to be humerous, if so you failed badly. Just because a bunch of studes (and their QFIs?) try to put a bit of spirit into things you demonstrate the antideluvian attitudes that are not part and parcel of todays flying training system. No wonder the studes look to going to Valley with some trepidation, I suggest you have a look at one of the course badges currently on display at Linton which partly describes their feelings.Maybe you've had some connection with 74, I don't know, but what you must realise is that 74 ceased to be a 'real' outfit when it disbanded with Lightnings, albeit a slight redemption with the F4.
A question: do you display your attitude to members of the RAFs current Tiger Sqn?
Poison Arrow, you total ar$e, haven't you ever heard that 'imitation is the sincerest form of flattery'? So if some students decide to have a 'Tiger course' then, so long as it isn't some separatist clique, good luck to them.
And I quite agree - the last RAF FJ 'Tiger Sqn' was 74 with the F4J. The pretense of a trainer being a 'Tiger' was a total joke.
And I quite agree - the last RAF FJ 'Tiger Sqn' was 74 with the F4J. The pretense of a trainer being a 'Tiger' was a total joke.
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Training tigers a joke?
Have to disagree, there is no such thing as an ex tiger, which means that I am still one, and I have never served on an FJ sqn.
I suspect 74 will be back soon with Eurofumbler which I welcome, but I also think that keeping sqn ethos alive with (R) sqns was also better than letting all our finest traditions slip slide away.
T,T,T.
Yozzer
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Cameri TM `88
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Bin there seen it flown with the hangover..hic!
Now a mature aviator that does not do such foolish things
Have to disagree, there is no such thing as an ex tiger, which means that I am still one, and I have never served on an FJ sqn.
I suspect 74 will be back soon with Eurofumbler which I welcome, but I also think that keeping sqn ethos alive with (R) sqns was also better than letting all our finest traditions slip slide away.
T,T,T.
Yozzer
Gutersloh TM `82
Cameri TM `88
Montijo TM `87
Bin there seen it flown with the hangover..hic!
Now a mature aviator that does not do such foolish things
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To the members of 'the Tiger flight':
Wear the badges near Valley and we'll chop you, wear them when I meet you on detachment and I'll chop you, later if you mention that you were a member- I'll chop you, in fact boys, you've got to work pretty hard on just staying alive (in the training system anyway).
Poison Arrow:
Grow up. If that is an attempt at humour, then 'tis pretty poor. The "I" in your job title stands for "Instruct" not Intimidate. Those days are gone and your comments dont do justice to those of us trying our best to get these kids to the frontline (in whatever hardware). Whilst I won't hesitate to chop those not trying 100% or unable to reach the standard, the idea of a bit of military course spirit is EXACTLY what we are trying to resurrect. As long as it doesnt denigrate the proud Tiger tradition then I'm all for it.
Wear the badges near Valley and we'll chop you, wear them when I meet you on detachment and I'll chop you, later if you mention that you were a member- I'll chop you, in fact boys, you've got to work pretty hard on just staying alive (in the training system anyway).
Poison Arrow:
Grow up. If that is an attempt at humour, then 'tis pretty poor. The "I" in your job title stands for "Instruct" not Intimidate. Those days are gone and your comments dont do justice to those of us trying our best to get these kids to the frontline (in whatever hardware). Whilst I won't hesitate to chop those not trying 100% or unable to reach the standard, the idea of a bit of military course spirit is EXACTLY what we are trying to resurrect. As long as it doesnt denigrate the proud Tiger tradition then I'm all for it.
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Totally agree with Audax and the subsequent posts. Arrow, for someone who has chosen such a pointed name, you are seriously off course.
2 things should now happen:-
Firstly, an authoratitive figure from Valley should appear in this thread to assure all studes that PAs comments are simply off the plot.
Secondly, PA should be identified (should be easy with his attitude) and sacked.
2 things should now happen:-
Firstly, an authoratitive figure from Valley should appear in this thread to assure all studes that PAs comments are simply off the plot.
Secondly, PA should be identified (should be easy with his attitude) and sacked.
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Poison Arrow you sad little power hungy deluded individual. You are the opitimy of RAF QFI's i remember at Valley. Tell you what mate you ever come near the front line (do you know what that is?)then i'll ****ing chop you.
I feel sorry for you mate ... at least the students only need to stay on the island at weekdays ... you have no where else to go ..
Go on mr powerhungry tell us your real name so we all no what to look up to !
I feel sorry for you mate ... at least the students only need to stay on the island at weekdays ... you have no where else to go ..
Go on mr powerhungry tell us your real name so we all no what to look up to !
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Anyone who thinks that only FJ can be tigers should go to a tiger meet. The RN Tiger Sqn has just been rededicated, and I suspect that one of their Aircraft will soon be the most photographed Helo in the world, as the last one was. Being a tiger is about spirit, and having a good excuse for a pissup, not elitist crap from QFI tw*ts. Good on the students for having a laugh. 
Avoid imitations
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Wow, I must admit reading my previous entry without the aid of a bottle of wine makes for serious reading. The original 'I'll chop you' speech was supposed to be a parody of a famous (perhaps to people under 40, sorry Beags!) quote from Lock, Stock & 2 Smoking Barrels, and was in fact meant as comedy and not a prelude to those nasty QFI types on the paradise Isle of Anglesey. All that trimming scares me too!
To all those baby FJPs: you can sleep well in your beds tonight, because don't worry, I'm not at Valley. ATD speaks the truth, give 100% etc and the instructors will do the same for you; work hard, play hard etc, still applies. But please note there is still a tiny thread of Tiger spirit at TWU level. They continue to TEACH the studes how to drop bombs, kill people and break their stuff. Without accepting whinging lightweights and non-team players. Which is what its all about, ask any Talibanarian. What was meant as banter I hope hasn't highlighted the fragile make up of today's would-be fighter pilot?
So, my apologies for a misguided attempt at humour.
And to answer the other banter:
Yes, I am/was a Tiger.
Yes, I know what the front line is.
Hey, Mav, give me a call, I'll fly with ya.
Good luck in the sun fellas.
Bring back 74!
[ 08 October 2001: Message edited by: Poison Arrow ]
To all those baby FJPs: you can sleep well in your beds tonight, because don't worry, I'm not at Valley. ATD speaks the truth, give 100% etc and the instructors will do the same for you; work hard, play hard etc, still applies. But please note there is still a tiny thread of Tiger spirit at TWU level. They continue to TEACH the studes how to drop bombs, kill people and break their stuff. Without accepting whinging lightweights and non-team players. Which is what its all about, ask any Talibanarian. What was meant as banter I hope hasn't highlighted the fragile make up of today's would-be fighter pilot?
So, my apologies for a misguided attempt at humour.
And to answer the other banter:
Yes, I am/was a Tiger.
Yes, I know what the front line is.
Hey, Mav, give me a call, I'll fly with ya.
Good luck in the sun fellas.Bring back 74!
[ 08 October 2001: Message edited by: Poison Arrow ]
Thank you for your retraction; incidentally I do know LS&2SB, but I thought that 'Snatch' was much more amusing.....
"My badge says 74(F) Tiger Sqn, whereas yours just say 74 replica Tincan flight. Now, f*ck off" is the sort of thing a Vinnie Jones-type QFI inspired by the pub scene in 'Snatch' might say perhaps?
Why didn't we just keep 63, 79 and 234? They were TWU sqns for years and would have been far more appropriate for the Valley sqns than misuse of recently disbanded frontline number plates. As the over-20s may recall, perhaps?
But the greatest loss was Chivenor - the RAF's finest aerodrome. Did 234 at Brawdy in the 70s and 63 at Chivenor when it re-opened; the Chivenor attitude was by far the best training environment I've ever known! The worst was the appalling 237 OCU.......
[ 08 October 2001: Message edited by: BEagle ]
"My badge says 74(F) Tiger Sqn, whereas yours just say 74 replica Tincan flight. Now, f*ck off" is the sort of thing a Vinnie Jones-type QFI inspired by the pub scene in 'Snatch' might say perhaps?
Why didn't we just keep 63, 79 and 234? They were TWU sqns for years and would have been far more appropriate for the Valley sqns than misuse of recently disbanded frontline number plates. As the over-20s may recall, perhaps?
But the greatest loss was Chivenor - the RAF's finest aerodrome. Did 234 at Brawdy in the 70s and 63 at Chivenor when it re-opened; the Chivenor attitude was by far the best training environment I've ever known! The worst was the appalling 237 OCU.......
[ 08 October 2001: Message edited by: BEagle ]
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I have a sneaky suspicion I may have been 'bished' by your very self, late in '99, whilst on the said 74((F)?) Sqn. Were you 'bishing' back then, or am I imagining it?
If so, many regards. If not, I probably make no sense.
Just who was Norman anyway?!
I have a sneaky suspicion I may have been 'bished' by your very self, late in '99, whilst on the said 74((F)?) Sqn. Were you 'bishing' back then, or am I imagining it?
If so, many regards. If not, I probably make no sense.
Just who was Norman anyway?!
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I never did any 'Bishing' myself, just poor imitations.
Love, MM.
Norman who?
To amswer the original thread- the traditions of the training Tigers are now just distant memories; the tiger meets, the spirit, the badges so smart they had a PHd from Hull, the mid-airs with F16s, even the Tiger's Head on the Valley Mess wall is well faded. So if you Tincan chaps arrive 'badged up' it'll go down just fine. A habit you'll have to get into on 208....
Love, MM.
Norman who?
To amswer the original thread- the traditions of the training Tigers are now just distant memories; the tiger meets, the spirit, the badges so smart they had a PHd from Hull, the mid-airs with F16s, even the Tiger's Head on the Valley Mess wall is well faded. So if you Tincan chaps arrive 'badged up' it'll go down just fine. A habit you'll have to get into on 208....
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I never thought that a bit of fun and spirit could have caused such a debate, but none of you have considered the possibility that since there are a number of ex Navigators and an Ex Observer on said Tiger Flt that they may have already served on a Tiger squadron in a previous life?
Interestingly though this has caused the odd bristle I read many threads asking where has all the spirit gone, when some crops up it gets a bit of a pi**ing on.
Interestingly though this has caused the odd bristle I read many threads asking where has all the spirit gone, when some crops up it gets a bit of a pi**ing on.
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Whilst I am delighted Poison Arrow has lightened the tone of this thread considerably after the orig post, may I refer you to part of my reply on the previous page?
"Whilst I won't hesitate to chop those not trying 100% or unable to reach the standard, the idea of a bit of military course spirit is EXACTLY what we are trying to resurrect. As long as it doesnt denigrate the proud Tiger tradition then I'm all for it."
Some of us are all for a bit of spirit!
Whilst I am delighted Poison Arrow has lightened the tone of this thread considerably after the orig post, may I refer you to part of my reply on the previous page?
"Whilst I won't hesitate to chop those not trying 100% or unable to reach the standard, the idea of a bit of military course spirit is EXACTLY what we are trying to resurrect. As long as it doesnt denigrate the proud Tiger tradition then I'm all for it."
Some of us are all for a bit of spirit!
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Hi to one and all, long time no "speak". Another interesting PPRuNe thread. A tad threatening 'per-chance' but stimulating none the less. If a flt or sqn wants to adopt a tiger emblem and the colours then what should be anybodies problem? I thought all "Tigers" welcomed all fellow "Tigers" in the bar for a drink, if they had been a Black and Gold badge wearer for 5 minutes or 50 years. I look forward to having a drink with the new 'Tigers', new blood is always welcome and should always be so. Pilots come and go, but spirit lives on for ever.
P.S. Going to Acapulco, C U.
P.S. Going to Acapulco, C U.