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Capital punishment for treason (and all other offences to which it previously applied)was abolished by s 36 of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998. There is no longer any crime punishable by capital punishment within England and Wales.
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Shall we move on from the general agreement that these Islamic 'warriors' should be a) barred from re-entering, b) shot and c) burnt at the stake.
How about a bit of white feather work on those 'sportsmen' who pick and choose when they're going to represent their country/club. Cowards, the lot of them.
"I've got a 15 and a half month old child and a 5 month pregnant wife" ........ excuse me! You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Of course the military don't send service-persons if they're in the same position, NOT!!!!
What's that Pte/SAC/Marine/LME/Maj/Lt Cdr/SnrCrab Bloggs? Your wife's pregnant? Nooooooo, we won't send you, you stay home and choose which war you want to take part in, oh, you want to be paid £50,000 a week for the privilege, sure, no problem. And when you've got time go join the rest of the nonces and sissies called English cricket players/Chelsea footballers, etc.
How about a bit of white feather work on those 'sportsmen' who pick and choose when they're going to represent their country/club. Cowards, the lot of them.
"I've got a 15 and a half month old child and a 5 month pregnant wife" ........ excuse me! You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Of course the military don't send service-persons if they're in the same position, NOT!!!!
What's that Pte/SAC/Marine/LME/Maj/Lt Cdr/SnrCrab Bloggs? Your wife's pregnant? Nooooooo, we won't send you, you stay home and choose which war you want to take part in, oh, you want to be paid £50,000 a week for the privilege, sure, no problem. And when you've got time go join the rest of the nonces and sissies called English cricket players/Chelsea footballers, etc.
These things went to fight fot the TALIBAN and if they are killed (tough sh**) they will get wa hat they wanted "To be martyr's for their cause, but I hope they are NOT Martyr's in this country.
(2) I saw a mate of big TONY'S on the TV complaining about the use of CBU's, can anyone tell me what else could they use to get the same result???
(2) I saw a mate of big TONY'S on the TV complaining about the use of CBU's, can anyone tell me what else could they use to get the same result???
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Napalm, now that would have the luvies wetting their collective knickers. 
Just been a item on the news a reporter was talking to one of these toerags who had come scurrying back to Pakistan very dissalusioned, and no doubt wanting to get home to West Yorkshire double quick.
Hope the special branch are waiting for him, although somehow I doubt it,give the bastard a week and hell be doing the rounds of the breakfast and afternoon tv progs, and selling his story to the bloody Sun.
[ 02 November 2001: Message edited by: tony draper ]
Just been a item on the news a reporter was talking to one of these toerags who had come scurrying back to Pakistan very dissalusioned, and no doubt wanting to get home to West Yorkshire double quick.
Hope the special branch are waiting for him, although somehow I doubt it,give the bastard a week and hell be doing the rounds of the breakfast and afternoon tv progs, and selling his story to the bloody Sun.
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Look guys, you've got this all wrong. I have a good source who says that these men are in fact double agents, working on behalf of MI6. Once safe and accepted in their new environment they will be able to subvert and destroy the taliban organisation from within. Now, as they are all on our side, perhaps we shouldn't talk about them any more because obviously, if this news got out they would be in a very awkward position with their new friends. Remember....Walls have ears! 
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Spies and bloody treachery. What other Country or "religion" would allow what has happened, without throwing the teddy out of the pram???? Well I am sick to death with all this crap about bombing civilians! huh remember when the US embassy was siezed in Iran??? They interviewed a Russian diplomat at the Russian embassy. They asked him what would have happened if it had been the Russian embassy? He looked at his watch and said it is 2.45pm at 3.pm there would be no Tehran!
See they didnt f**k with the Russians as they knew what would happen, unless we smack the ******s hard then they will keep coming back! If the Traitors to the Crown want to fight for the "wonderful loving Taliban" then can I suggest we start a collection to send them out, I am sure the lads and lasses out there would like some of these "doleites hardened troops" to play with!!!
Do I sound upset.....I am ....If we keep turning the other cheek they will continue to hit it, then expect bloody handouts when all this is over!
Peed off bloke.....
See they didnt f**k with the Russians as they knew what would happen, unless we smack the ******s hard then they will keep coming back! If the Traitors to the Crown want to fight for the "wonderful loving Taliban" then can I suggest we start a collection to send them out, I am sure the lads and lasses out there would like some of these "doleites hardened troops" to play with!!!
Do I sound upset.....I am ....If we keep turning the other cheek they will continue to hit it, then expect bloody handouts when all this is over!
Peed off bloke.....
The KGB, it seems, always played hard rules with any terrorists giving Soviet citizens a hard time.
There was a story concerning the kidnapping of a Soviet citizen in somewhere like Lebanon. The KGB took a dim view of this and asked for his return. Nothing happened. So they rounded up the chief suspect and had a word; he was then sent back to secure the release of their citizen - which he did. Minus his testicles....
There was a story concerning the kidnapping of a Soviet citizen in somewhere like Lebanon. The KGB took a dim view of this and asked for his return. Nothing happened. So they rounded up the chief suspect and had a word; he was then sent back to secure the release of their citizen - which he did. Minus his testicles....
Mind you, that's nothing compared to what KGB/GRU was capable of doing to Soviet Citizens at home. Which of-course justifies exactly why we wish to preserve our way of life. I think expulsion is the only appropriate punishment, or exceptionally if they know things they shouldn't lock them up for long enough to make their knowledge useless, then expel them. Hanging them, satisfying though it is, only creates martyrs.
I obviously got the trainees during my brief encounter with the dieing Soviet empire.
Concur with most of what has gone before, although I suspect that getting to know a member of the Royal household a little too closely, is probably only treason if you didn't have their permission ?
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I obviously got the trainees during my brief encounter with the dieing Soviet empire.
Concur with most of what has gone before, although I suspect that getting to know a member of the Royal household a little too closely, is probably only treason if you didn't have their permission ?
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A slight side issue this, but here goes. One of the Treason Offences being to wage war on the crown from within the country...does this not cover the activitiesof a group of Galic Gentelmen from a Province of the UK near here?
On the issue of trying our friends who want to become fighter for the Talban....with luck few of them will be able to return to these shores, thus saving an expensive trial and us paying for thier stay in one of HM's Guest houses.
On the issue of trying our friends who want to become fighter for the Talban....with luck few of them will be able to return to these shores, thus saving an expensive trial and us paying for thier stay in one of HM's Guest houses.
Although if any of them are wounded by British forces, we will be expected to a)treat them on the NHS and b) pay compensation.
Beags, the KGB were a little more stylish. They kidnapped the chief suspect's son and then sent daddy little johnny's left testicle in a fur-lined box (OK, I made up the fur-lined bit). Daddy got the message. Soviet citizen was released that afternoon, fully intact.
Beags, the KGB were a little more stylish. They kidnapped the chief suspect's son and then sent daddy little johnny's left testicle in a fur-lined box (OK, I made up the fur-lined bit). Daddy got the message. Soviet citizen was released that afternoon, fully intact.
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I have been surfing to try and get a handle on why the muslims have such a problem with the west.
http://forum.ymuk.net/showthread.php...&threadid=1547
Now I am more confused. I only hope this is not a broad spectrum of muslims!
http://forum.ymuk.net/showthread.php...&threadid=1547
Now I am more confused. I only hope this is not a broad spectrum of muslims!
oooo you cynic! How could you say such a terribly true thing like that in such a public forum? The only thing is guys that as distateful as it is, and as much as what we are doing is right, the fact is that one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter. Look around the world there are a LOT of ex-terrorists in power who are now so called respected members of the world community. It's called a convenient memory!!
Things are always worse than they seem!
Things are always worse than they seem!
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Quite true, in general terms, one person's (being PC here) terrorist is another person's freedom fighter.
However, if you are using unconventional tactics to rid YOUR country of tyranny, that (surely) is quite different from inflicting huge damage on the civilian population of ANOTHER country simply because you don't like them or are jealous of their way of life.
There is also a considerable difference between those who seek to INFLICT huge numbers of civilian casualties (relatively easy to do) and those who seek to AVOID huge numbers of civilian casualties.
However, if you are using unconventional tactics to rid YOUR country of tyranny, that (surely) is quite different from inflicting huge damage on the civilian population of ANOTHER country simply because you don't like them or are jealous of their way of life.
There is also a considerable difference between those who seek to INFLICT huge numbers of civilian casualties (relatively easy to do) and those who seek to AVOID huge numbers of civilian casualties.
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Thanks w3, I didn't mean to imply that you didn't share similar views, it was meant more as a comment on the appalling way that the propaganda war is being handled.
Terrorism generally has totally dismissed the idea of "civilians" anyway. (I refer to the widespread use of the term "legitimate target").
Anyway, the theme of this forum is treason and, yes, those who go abroad to fight against us and our way of life (imperfect as it is) are most certainly traitors, if they survive and if they can be identified, they should never again be allowed into this country - they clearly do not wish to live by civilised rules.
It is, however, preferrable that those who feel that way go to Afghanistan to fight rather than stay here and fight. (how about assisted passage - if you can find an airline to carry them!!)
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Terrorism generally has totally dismissed the idea of "civilians" anyway. (I refer to the widespread use of the term "legitimate target").
Anyway, the theme of this forum is treason and, yes, those who go abroad to fight against us and our way of life (imperfect as it is) are most certainly traitors, if they survive and if they can be identified, they should never again be allowed into this country - they clearly do not wish to live by civilised rules.
It is, however, preferrable that those who feel that way go to Afghanistan to fight rather than stay here and fight. (how about assisted passage - if you can find an airline to carry them!!)
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Just been a iten on the news, the Northern Alliance have taken many Taliban prisoners in the latest sweep forward, but they are hunting down and shooting out of hand any Pakistani volunteers they come across, hope they don't miss any of our citizens out there.
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Have to agree T D
I remember seeing news reports during the conflict in FRY, (Croatia and Bosnia) referencing all sides killing their own hired mercenary’s and being non to friendly with those captured
belonging to the other.
I hope that we don’t have to deal with to many of these XXXXers trying to get back for similar reasons.
(I don’t believe iv just seen a Man U advert in here, is no where sacred anymore? )
Rant Over.
I remember seeing news reports during the conflict in FRY, (Croatia and Bosnia) referencing all sides killing their own hired mercenary’s and being non to friendly with those captured
belonging to the other.
I hope that we don’t have to deal with to many of these XXXXers trying to get back for similar reasons.
(I don’t believe iv just seen a Man U advert in here, is no where sacred anymore?
)Rant Over.
