Calling UAS members re Private Forum
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Ahhhh UWAS.... Of course flick manouvres were forbidden in the 'dog but I do recall doing simulated flicks and a simulated lomcovak. In addition anyone who flew with Big Dougal (Mr Nivea) may remember a patented aerobatic manouvre known as the Culloden (allegedly named after a great Scottish cock-up). Now, how did that go......?
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Thanks to all those who have emailed me. I will be contacting you all soon with the details, however, spread the word as I need as much support as possible.
One way that would help our cause would be for some of you (especially those with a bursary) to buy a pprune badge (they are V Nice). If you do, mention in the letter that you are helping to fund a UAS site. If you can't find the details of where to get them, e me.
Tonks
One way that would help our cause would be for some of you (especially those with a bursary) to buy a pprune badge (they are V Nice). If you do, mention in the letter that you are helping to fund a UAS site. If you can't find the details of where to get them, e me.
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Don't blame the aircraft for any shortcomings guys - The Grob does exactly what it says on the tin. Blame the clever people in MOD Procurement who did not specify clearly enough what the aircraft was required to do within the UAS environment. Reference flight in IMC it has only one attitude indicating instrument and the RAF are now going to have retro-fit an alternative attitude indicator to gain certification for IMC. The issue of aerobatics, as I understand it, is more to do with the lack of the necessary paperwork than any limitations of the airframe. Basically the aircraft can perform aerobatics and does so in Gemany where it has been tested and certified to do so. But it has not been tested, certified and placarded for aerobatics in the UK. So much for JAA/JAR's!
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the aircraft's got every going for it. its a nice piece of kit. It does all the aerobatics that the bulldog could do, and maybe even better. only thing is they're civvy registered. And they look like sperm, but thats german design.
Just give it a chance..
8AEF - Doing it Doggy style for the last time.
Just give it a chance..
8AEF - Doing it Doggy style for the last time.
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What you say about the procurement of the Grob Tutor might well be true. However, before it entered service, Grob produced a very glossy brochure stating that its aircraft was fully aerobatic and IFR capable. It made no exceptions to the aircraft's capabilities. Despite the problems with its introdution, even those given the job of chosing a Bulldog replacement would have been tempted by an advert stating, 'German bag of s**t for sale. Fully 14 aerobatic manoeuvre capable and fully VFR cleared. Everything else verboten.'
What you say about the procurement of the Grob Tutor might well be true. However, before it entered service, Grob produced a very glossy brochure stating that its aircraft was fully aerobatic and IFR capable. It made no exceptions to the aircraft's capabilities. Despite the problems with its introdution, even those given the job of chosing a Bulldog replacement would have been tempted by an advert stating, 'German bag of s**t for sale. Fully 14 aerobatic manoeuvre capable and fully VFR cleared. Everything else verboten.'
