Tips on Passing Filter Interview for WSOp?
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Dragging the thread back to the subject
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Do you mean the interview before OASC or the interview at OASC?
The filter interview is really there to see if you're the kind of chap that OASC should have a look at, whereas the interview at OASC is there to see what kind of chap (or chappess) you are.
Swotting up a bit for the filter interview is the best advice I could give, not just on your favoured bit of machinery, Chinook maybe, but all the aircraft that NCA fly. The interview will be a one-on-one with an Officer, although it could be a Warrant Officer/Master Aircrew, and his/her recommendation will be from his/her perception of you during the interview.
The OASC interview (which everyone seems to be afraid of, but shouldn't be) will be in front of a board (3 I think?), the other tests will be marked or assessed by other selection staff so the whole result is a group decision.
Therefore, be smart as advised, have a good base knowledge of the job/aircraft/locations/operations (it doesn't need to be A-Level stuff), have 3 or 4 current affairs subjects up your sleeve as well. Most of all relax and try to give your best.
Good luck!
P.S. Downsizer, you'll have someone's eye out with that.
.Do you mean the interview before OASC or the interview at OASC?
The filter interview is really there to see if you're the kind of chap that OASC should have a look at, whereas the interview at OASC is there to see what kind of chap (or chappess) you are.
Swotting up a bit for the filter interview is the best advice I could give, not just on your favoured bit of machinery, Chinook maybe, but all the aircraft that NCA fly. The interview will be a one-on-one with an Officer, although it could be a Warrant Officer/Master Aircrew, and his/her recommendation will be from his/her perception of you during the interview.
The OASC interview (which everyone seems to be afraid of, but shouldn't be) will be in front of a board (3 I think?), the other tests will be marked or assessed by other selection staff so the whole result is a group decision.
Therefore, be smart as advised, have a good base knowledge of the job/aircraft/locations/operations (it doesn't need to be A-Level stuff), have 3 or 4 current affairs subjects up your sleeve as well. Most of all relax and try to give your best.
Good luck!
P.S. Downsizer, you'll have someone's eye out with that.
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In reply to the comment made by 'smugley', it is the filter interview I started this thread on but as it has progressed I realise the significance of OASC. That is the real test it seems.
I know that OASC consists of aptitude tests, fitness tests; numerical reasoning and leadership tests (please let me know if there is anything else). What is the best way to prepare for this in regards to books to read and ways to test myself?
I know that OASC consists of aptitude tests, fitness tests; numerical reasoning and leadership tests (please let me know if there is anything else). What is the best way to prepare for this in regards to books to read and ways to test myself?
No need to panic, everybody in the mess and the wider world knows they aren't real SNCOs...
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Downsizer,
I dont really care what anyone in the Mess thinks; I try and avoid it as all that crimpolene and polyester are a fire risk waiting to happen.
I must admit the extra 7K a year more than makes up for what anyone with a large shoulder mounted chip may feel, as does the satisfaction of coming back off an IRT callout or deliberate op and seeing blunties worrying about stationary orders or sandbagging a parking space.
You should try it.
I dont really care what anyone in the Mess thinks; I try and avoid it as all that crimpolene and polyester are a fire risk waiting to happen.
I must admit the extra 7K a year more than makes up for what anyone with a large shoulder mounted chip may feel, as does the satisfaction of coming back off an IRT callout or deliberate op and seeing blunties worrying about stationary orders or sandbagging a parking space.
You should try it.
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Cozzarockery.
I think you're right in the statement that OASC is the big test, however the filter interview does what it says on the tin and holds weight in that you need to get through that first and so is pretty important.
That said, you will probably get a bit of feedback and advice from your interviewer and you can then sharpen up on any weak areas as these will definitely come to light at OASC.
There's buckets of stuff on this forum and others about the tests (also the format has changed a bit since my selection) so I won't go overboard on the details.
Get fit - the bleep test has a maximum score of excellent so you'd be cheating yourself not to get it.
Don't worry about the medical, it's stringent but if you're not tall enough, for example, for the branch you want - you can't do anything about it so don't stress.
You might be able to help yourself a little with the aptitude tests, short-term memory, number puzzles, mental arithmetic etc. But, again, you've either got it or you haven't so don't worry about that too much either.
The interview - know your subject, half of it is talking about yourself anyway so sell yourself. It is NOT the nightmare that people think.
Leadership/team exercises - are actually quite a giggle if you've got the right attitude. They're only looking for potential at this point. You'll learn alot by looking at the other candidates around you.
After all that, hopefully an offer will come your way and then it's the hard part! Throughout it all though, keep positive and if you take one thing away from this forum today - a broad understanding of the service will serve you well and childish mud slinging will get you nowhere.
I think you're right in the statement that OASC is the big test, however the filter interview does what it says on the tin and holds weight in that you need to get through that first and so is pretty important.
That said, you will probably get a bit of feedback and advice from your interviewer and you can then sharpen up on any weak areas as these will definitely come to light at OASC.
There's buckets of stuff on this forum and others about the tests (also the format has changed a bit since my selection) so I won't go overboard on the details.
Get fit - the bleep test has a maximum score of excellent so you'd be cheating yourself not to get it.
Don't worry about the medical, it's stringent but if you're not tall enough, for example, for the branch you want - you can't do anything about it so don't stress.
You might be able to help yourself a little with the aptitude tests, short-term memory, number puzzles, mental arithmetic etc. But, again, you've either got it or you haven't so don't worry about that too much either.
The interview - know your subject, half of it is talking about yourself anyway so sell yourself. It is NOT the nightmare that people think.
Leadership/team exercises - are actually quite a giggle if you've got the right attitude. They're only looking for potential at this point. You'll learn alot by looking at the other candidates around you.
After all that, hopefully an offer will come your way and then it's the hard part! Throughout it all though, keep positive and if you take one thing away from this forum today - a broad understanding of the service will serve you well and childish mud slinging will get you nowhere.
Airpolice,
My post was in response to:
Either you didnt bother to read the whole thread, or you obviously you subscribe to this school of thought.
Ive never been described as a middle level achiever, a new experience. I don't really know what you do, don't really care, and don't really aspire to it (unless you are official alcohol tester for the city of Cancun).
You are half right (second half)
Most of the great leaders I know are on the flying Sqns. That is because you require leadership to fly back in and out of some taliban infested sh1thole or overhead an Argentinian AAA position day after day.
You require management to ensure JPA claims are submitted, parking spaces are sandbagged and labelled, and that stationery arrives on time.
We have far too many managers as people like you confuse this for leadership. We need leaders and it doesnt matter if they work in the air or in the ground, whether they strap themselves in or strap things down for a living, but it does help if they read all the posts in a thread before flicking the switch marked 'morale outrage' and mounting a high horse.
Your responses in this thread (starting with spelling pedantry and ending with 'let's be buddies' encouragement) leads me to believe you are not NCA. In which case, what qualification do you have for posting on this thread? other than an oversized self opinion and the self satisfied knowledge that we obviously need your input?
To the original poster,
Good luck in your application. Be aware, as Im sure you are by now, that some within the RAF will consider you less of a SNCO because you didnt spend 12 years as treasurer of the road safety committee.
Others, consider the acquisition and marking of car parking spaces and stringent work timings to be the cornerstone of any operation.
Other than that, you will have a great time and make some great friends.
My post was in response to:
No need to panic, everybody in the mess and the wider world knows they aren't real SNCOs...
Another common thread in middle level achievers is that they can never see when people are looking down their noses at them, often mistaking it for jealousy. Any critical comment is usually responded to with claims of "You just wish you were doing what I do" when in reality it is more a case of me wishing you would do your bit better.
There is more to serving in the Royal Air Force than being aircrew, although they are what it is all about.
This is not necessarily a bad thing, as any big business needs doers as well as leaders.
You require management to ensure JPA claims are submitted, parking spaces are sandbagged and labelled, and that stationery arrives on time.
We have far too many managers as people like you confuse this for leadership. We need leaders and it doesnt matter if they work in the air or in the ground, whether they strap themselves in or strap things down for a living, but it does help if they read all the posts in a thread before flicking the switch marked 'morale outrage' and mounting a high horse.
Your responses in this thread (starting with spelling pedantry and ending with 'let's be buddies' encouragement) leads me to believe you are not NCA. In which case, what qualification do you have for posting on this thread? other than an oversized self opinion and the self satisfied knowledge that we obviously need your input?
To the original poster,
Good luck in your application. Be aware, as Im sure you are by now, that some within the RAF will consider you less of a SNCO because you didnt spend 12 years as treasurer of the road safety committee.
Others, consider the acquisition and marking of car parking spaces and stringent work timings to be the cornerstone of any operation.
Other than that, you will have a great time and make some great friends.
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how funny! Hello, I to am about to have my filter interview for WSOp and have under taken alot of revision, some mybe not needed and some focused on more than others. Please can anyone help me in choosing which is important and which is not.
Operationions around the world ; Falklands, Northern Ireland, Gulf War, Bosnia, Kosovo, Sierra Leone, Afghanistan and Iraq
Training; whats involved and when it takes place
Roles and responsibillities of; RAF, Sgt, and WSOp
I have left the most important things out, Aircraft etc. If anyone has any ideas about this it would be a great help to my revision, i want to pass this interview so much!
Thanks
