US to deploy JDAM equipped Super Tucanos...
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US to deploy JDAM equipped Super Tucanos...
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In light of all the comments made on here about the need for a cheap effective aircraft for COIN, maybe here you have the answer...
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In light of all the comments made on here about the need for a cheap effective aircraft for COIN, maybe here you have the answer...
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Would more A/OA-10's hogs not be better value for money?
obviously getting new frames might be expensive as i imagine the production line is long closed???
Also the AC-130s are they not better "bang per buck" ?
obviously if its cheap n chearfull you want this is probably the best option !
obviously getting new frames might be expensive as i imagine the production line is long closed???
Also the AC-130s are they not better "bang per buck" ?
obviously if its cheap n chearfull you want this is probably the best option !
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Cheap isnt always bad. If it works like the intruder did in Vietnam then why not?
The question is this - will it be as effective as what is in theatre already, there isonly one way to find out.
The question is this - will it be as effective as what is in theatre already, there isonly one way to find out.
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Sorry for slipping of the subject there but when doing a wee bit of digging.I came across this about the A-10.
"The A-10 is not exported to any other countries but it's believed that Turkey obtained at least 50 A-10 airframes."
A-10/OA-10 Thunderbolt 2
But cant find any other net storys to back it up. So is there any truth to this ? I dont think so but thought i would ask the more informed than me
"The A-10 is not exported to any other countries but it's believed that Turkey obtained at least 50 A-10 airframes."
A-10/OA-10 Thunderbolt 2
But cant find any other net storys to back it up. So is there any truth to this ? I dont think so but thought i would ask the more informed than me
I would be interested to see how quickly they can get them out on to ops. I can but only imagine it will be a hell of a lot quicker than our procurement processes which seem to hark back to WW2
From what I can gather, our procurement seems to be run along the lines of some boffin/engineer/company having an idea, pushing it out and regardless of its utility, it is accepted / rejected solely on the whim of someone in MOD with scant regard for the opinions of the end users.
From what I can gather, our procurement seems to be run along the lines of some boffin/engineer/company having an idea, pushing it out and regardless of its utility, it is accepted / rejected solely on the whim of someone in MOD with scant regard for the opinions of the end users.
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I'd just put forwards that their cheap, to maintain and crucially, operate, small logs footprint, can operate further forwards nearer FOBS than higher performance jets, can loiter longer, have two crew to deal with the flying/surveillance workload, has a good mixture of big bang JDAM's and show of force .50 cals, and a excellent sensor fit.
Seems perfect to be honest. I'd just like to see the final unit cost.
Seems perfect to be honest. I'd just like to see the final unit cost.
for the sensor suite and weapon potential.Guest
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How many Hawk T1s are we about to retire, most with good airframe life left in them .... a new wing, easy to fit on the Hawk - 6 bolts, already designed for the T2, a simple armament system, hey presto, a cheap effective counter insurgency aircraft.
We have the spares and support systems in place, most of our front line pilots have experience in it, it's fast, manoeuvrable, cheap to operate ..... you get my drift.
We have the spares and support systems in place, most of our front line pilots have experience in it, it's fast, manoeuvrable, cheap to operate ..... you get my drift.
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Have seen a couple of threads in other places talking about the "Return" of the OV10. New builds to the original design with updated avionics. Would be an interesting project.
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The U.S. is the only operator of the A-10. Along with Turkey the other country that apparently expressed an interest was Jordan. Neither country received any examples.
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I thought that "our" Tucanos" didn't have the strengthend wings for hardpoints, so we couldn't do the same thing, even if we wanted to?
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Wouldn't the Hawk T.1 be limited by its current engine in the likes of Afghanistan? Especially carrying a load? The general consensus was that the Jaguar could only have alleviated the burden on the Harrier force due to the limitations of load carrying and extreme temperatures. Wouldn't the Hawk T.1 carrying a useful load struggle?
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Flying over a 'normal' enemies territory with a single engine is one thing, flying of the Talebans is a bit different.
Think I would also rather sit in a nice big titanium 'bathtub' and have the ability to lose a rudder and elevator or part of the wing.
Think I would also rather sit in a nice big titanium 'bathtub' and have the ability to lose a rudder and elevator or part of the wing.
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Have seen a couple of threads in other places talking about the "Return" of the OV10. New builds to the original design with updated avionics. Would be an interesting project.
Should be a good piece of kit.