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Old 20th Jul 2009, 05:36
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Crash on Take-Off at Kandahar

NATO: Fighter jet crashes at Afghan base
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KABUL — A NATO official says a fighter jet has crashed at NATO's largest base in southern Afghanistan, the second major crash at the base in two days.

Capt. Ruben Hoorncelv, a spokesman for the NATO-led force, says a fighter jet crashed inside Kandahar Air Field during takeoff at 7:20 a.m. Afghanistan time Monday. The two-man crew ejected from the jet and are being treated at the base hospital.

Hoorncelv says there is no indication insurgent activity caused the crash, but that officials don't yet know why it went down. The jet caught fire and emergency personnel responded.

A Russian-owned civilian helicopter crashed at Kandahar Air Field on Sunday, killing 16 people on board.

Hoorncelv says he thinks the rash of crashes is coincidence.
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Reuters have it as a helicopter?

KABUL (Reuters) – A helicopter belonging to the NATO-led force crashed on Monday on a airfield in Afghanistan's southern province of Kandahar, an alliance official said, a day after a similar crash killed 16 people there.

The two crew were being treated for their wounds, he said. The helicopter crashed shortly after take-off and was on fire, he said, adding there was no immediate indication that it had come under fire.
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Grizz,

inappropriate to comment on the aircraft type until officially released!! PN you are indeed correct.
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Several NATO spokespeople are quoted in the open as saying it's a Tornado.

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A Tornado fighter jet crashed inside NATO's largest base in southern Afghanistan on Monday in the second major crash on the base in two days, officials said.

The jet crashed inside Kandahar Airfield during takeoff at 7:20 a.m. Afghanistan time (0250 GMT), said Capt. Ruben Hoornveld, a spokesman for the NATO-led force. The two-member crew ejected and were being treated at the base hospital.

There was no indication that insurgent activity caused the crash, he said, but officials could not immediately say why the plane went down. The jet caught fire and emergency personnel responded.

NATO didn't identify which nation the jet came from, but a U.S. military spokeswoman in Kabul, Lt. Cmdr. Christine Sidenstricker, said the jet was a Tornado _ an aircraft commonly flown by British forces.

The crash happened one day after a Russian-owned civilian Mi-8 helicopter crashed at Kandahar Airfield, killing 16 people on board. Both Kandahar crashes follow a string of deadly aircraft downings elsewhere around Afghanistan in recent days.

Hoornveld said he did not know why two aircraft had crashed in Kandahar in two days.
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The impression given is that it was during the take-off roll and that the aircraft wasn't totally written-off (damage to aircraft and not wreckage...)......

Independent: Crew injured in RAF Afghanistan jet crash
By Mark Bulstrode, PA
Monday, 20 July

Two RAF crew members were being assessed in hospital today after a British fighter jet crashed during take-off in Afghanistan.

The Ministry of Defence said the GR4 Tornado was damaged at Kandahar Airfield, in the south of the country, at 7.20am local time (0250 GMT).

A spokeswoman said the injuries suffered by the crew - the only people on board - were still being assessed.

"The RAF GR4 Tornado crashed during take-off," she said. "An investigation has been launched but the crash definitely wasn't due to enemy action. The crew ejected safely but they did sustain some injuries, which are currently being assessed in a hospital."

She added that accident investigators were analysing damage to the aircraft.
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Glad to hear that the crew were the only people onboard the Tornado - nice work, Indy!
Get well soon guys.
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Tornado incident

'A spokeswoman said the injuries suffered by the crew - the only people on board - were still being assessed. '

Do we have a new secret version of the Tornado with more than two seats? Mod spokespeople seem to have very little knowledge of their subject
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Hope the nurseys give the lads something to remember Kaf by!

Get well soon lads.
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Guess you need a very long range cab to get them direct to Nottingham
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Guess you need a very long range cab to get them direct to Nottingham
No need, there is a very good scanner at the KAF Hosp. However, I seem to remember the Nurses were a bit ropey during my brief visit

Get well soon, chaps...

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...only crew onboard....

Cessnapete, it's more likely the journos being fed the info don't know much about the subject (no reflection on them, just fact). If the spokesperson had said 'the crew escaped unharmed' you can bet that the first question would have been 'what about the pax?'!

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cessnapete - you may be an expert on military fast-jets but I can assure you most punters haven't a scooby. I think JJ has probably got it spot on. I have had to brief journo's on mil flying in the past and apart from a couple of defence correspondents they hadn't a clue.

I was also crassly mis-quoted in a national newspaper and had to live it down in the crew room for years afterwards!
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I was also crassly mis-quoted in a national newspaper and had to live it down in the crew room for years afterwards!
In the interests of being able to judge for ourselves the severity of the journalistic misdemeanour, i think we should be told what you said and what you were quoted as saying.
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And back to the point - glad to hear the crew got out, get well soon!

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Bit of a surprise to hear the news, but really chuffed the guys got out ok.

Get well soon guys.

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Attn TorDet:

These things happen fellas, god speed to crew and I know you will crack on and continue to deliver as you have been since you took over. Fleet banter aside, good job (but we were obviously better.........., well apart from when we weren't)
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Ewan - No chance mate, I'm not opening that can again, at least not sober!

Rather annoyingly if you have some relevant words it now pops up in Google; there's a challenge for you!

Certainly made me very cautious when it comes to sound bites selectively "quoted" in the press.
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Glad the guys got out, but this happened only a couple of hours after another of the same type had overrun the end of the runway on landing... Not such a good day for the force.
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No mention on the RAF web site yet.
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another of the same type had overrun the end of the runway on landing...
Don't they have a hookwire there?
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