Not your everyday touch and go in a F-104
Yes, Him
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the low fast pass under the slow pass caused a moderate 'bang' as he just nudged the 'forbidden' zone
Ah, the Viking Pair! I was also there but outside one of the hostility chalets - much amusement at sight of one of the Victor crew who tipped his strawbs and cream into his own lap when the boom arrived.
Same effect on flying suits could probably have been seen across on airside at the aircrew party. Anyone else remember the dancers?! ISRT that the decision to bring them off the stage was so popular that even full cans of beer were thrown at 'the management'....
Same effect on flying suits could probably have been seen across on airside at the aircrew party. Anyone else remember the dancers?! ISRT that the decision to bring them off the stage was so popular that even full cans of beer were thrown at 'the management'....
Yes, it all seemed to go downhill rather for Supermarine after the Spitfire....
Spiteful/Seafang - too late. So they came up with the Attacker - basically a jet Spiteful, complete with tailwheel. It was in service for a mere 3 years with the Fleet Air Arm.
Then they fitted swept wings to the Attacker, a bigger engine and (eventually) a nosewheel, that became the Swift. Rather a disaster. 56(F)'s history albums contain lots of photos of the wretched things looking rather sorry for themselves. But a few brave souls rushed around Germany at low level in the FR5 version.
And finally the Scimitar. Maintenance hungry and accident prone, it seems. Although when everything worked, it was apparently quite popular.
Spiteful/Seafang - too late. So they came up with the Attacker - basically a jet Spiteful, complete with tailwheel. It was in service for a mere 3 years with the Fleet Air Arm.
Then they fitted swept wings to the Attacker, a bigger engine and (eventually) a nosewheel, that became the Swift. Rather a disaster. 56(F)'s history albums contain lots of photos of the wretched things looking rather sorry for themselves. But a few brave souls rushed around Germany at low level in the FR5 version.
And finally the Scimitar. Maintenance hungry and accident prone, it seems. Although when everything worked, it was apparently quite popular.
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nowadays it appears to be more of "Resources Management/Risk Avoidance" game
a professional display of the 104 which was a very fine aircraft when maintained and flown by professionals.
Hey don't get me wrong I love a good beat up and blow-by but we don't have to be stupid about it.
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"Beat up and blow by" any fool can do, and have done. Some got away with it, a lot didn't. We all collectively said "Damn Idiot" and moved on. Doesn't take much skill, just a lack of brains. However a demonstration of the capabilties of both the pilot and the aircraft in other than "normal flight regime" ie: 5 ft off the deck at 500 knots, shows what can be done and how to, within the envelope. In my day, it was always the pilots thorough understanding and knowledge of the actual capabilities of his aircraft along with the ability to use them that made the difference of who came out on top. Still hang around with fast mover crews at times and nothing seems to have changed. And you still get to drink with your buddy's in the bar after. Remember the old line, from where I can't remember: "You can teach a monkey to fly better than that". Maybe all the past generations have said the same thing about the next? No disrespect, but if I had have wanted risk reduction etc, I could have gone and flown for BOAC.
Just my tuppence worth.
Door closing behind me.
Just my tuppence worth.
Door closing behind me.
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"You can teach a monkey to fly better than that".
I guess there must be a fine line between "Damn Idiot" and "Wow that fellow really knows his aircraft with that 5ft 500kt pass"
Oh well, I'll just have to settle with 420kts at 250ft agl which I'm off to do right now
